David Vitter Apolgizes For Serious Sin

Why limit it to two. You're discriminating against those who like multiple partners. Why is it ok to discriminate against them and not gays?

 

he is a bigot, and had exposed his true agenda, he just doesnt like polygamists.

 

Baby steps. Baby steps. The Mormons will get their day. I like multiple (female) partners as well, but I'm not barking up that tree...

One answer to that is there are too many complications dealing with multiple party contracts, such as inheritence rights, benefit distribution, etc etc... We already have a two-party model well established by the tradition of marriage; lets just keep that model and apply it to gay couples.

The other answer is that polygamy is illegal in the US. Being gay is not.

 

Because the government gives rights to married couples that gay couples don't get.

No, Civil Unions and Marriage are not similar in any way whatsoever, but they make people who choose to remain ignorant on the subject feel better, I guess?

Civil Unions only grant rights under state law. These laws may vary drastically from one state to another, and are only recognized in the state where the couple lives. There are no Federal benefits or protections in Civil Unions, like Social Security benefits, veterans benefits, Medicaid, hospital visitation, pensions, family leave, and immigration law. According to the GAO, there are more than 1,100 federal rights and protections they are missing out on.

Good job crafting such an arrogantly presented opinion without knowing any of the facts, though. Here, this will get you started:
http://www.google.com

I never said that anybody has to like anyone. However, since gay couples are American citizens and tax payers as well, the Federal Govt should be required to extend the same protections to them that married couples have. I could care less who likes who. But I will always take the position that the Govt treats every citizen equally, regardless of factors like race, sex, gender, or sexual preference.

And yes I'm a good person, but only because I'm attractive and wealthy.

 

boo hoo.

you certainly implied it was a bad thing that these people do not like gays.

i don't see why any couples get any special rights.

right, so start lobbying on behalf of polygamists.

 

Because some of these special rights make perfect sense, and would have no relevancy to a non-married individual.

Hospital visitation. Married couples have the automatic right to visit each other in the hospital and make medical decisions. Same-sex couples can be denied the right to visit a sick or injured loved one in the hospital.

Social Security benefits. Married people receive Social Security payments upon the death of a spouse. Despite paying payroll taxes, gay and lesbian workers receive no Social Security survivor benefits – resulting in an average annual income loss of $5,528 upon the death of a partner.

Health insurance. Many public and private employers provide medical coverage to the spouses of their employees, but most employers do not provide coverage to the life partners of gay and lesbian employees. Gay and lesbian employees who do receive health coverage for their partners must pay federal income taxes on the value of the insurance.

Estate taxes. A married person automatically inherits all the property of his or her deceased spouse without paying estate taxes. A gay or lesbian taxpayer is forced to pay estate taxes on property inherited from a deceased partner.

Retirement savings. While a married person can roll a deceased spouse’s 401(k) funds into an IRA without paying taxes, a gay or lesbian American who inherits a 401(k) can end up paying up to 70 percent of it in taxes and penalties.

Family leave. Married workers are legally entitled to unpaid leave from their jobs to care for an ill spouse. Gay and lesbian workers are not entitled to family leave to care for their partners.

Immigration rights. Bi-national families are commonly broken up or forced to leave the country to stay together. The reason: U.S. immigration law does not permit American citizens to petition for their same-sex partners to immigrate.

Nursing homes. Married couples have a legal right to live together in nursing homes. Because they are not legal spouses, elderly gay or lesbian couples do not have the right to spend their last days living together in nursing homes.

Home protection. Laws protect married seniors from being forced to sell their homes to pay high nursing home bills; gay and lesbian seniors have no such protection.

Pensions. After the death of a worker, most pension plans pay survivor benefits only to a legal spouse of the participant. Gay and lesbian partners are excluded from such pension benefits.

 

I don't think many on the pro gay-marriage/union/partnership side would care what it was called as long as it provided equal Federal protection. That's what they aren't getting currently with civil unions.

 

Polygamy is illegal. If it was legal, I would have no problem with full marriage rights to polygamists.

It is not a "bad thing" to not like gays. That's none of my business. It is, however, a bad thing to deprive them of their civil rights.

 

what possible relevance could the legality have?

people deserve the same rights or they do not. you make a big show of favoring equal rights for gays, but you dont seem to care about the polygamist. why is one relationship better or worse than another? what about your precious equal rights?