David Schippers contends OKC bomber part of Islamic, not 'right-wing,' plot

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  1. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    Watch out red...he knows where you are!
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Man, all of their links are to pages on the same World Network Daily site. There is no evidence introduced, only teasers. It all reads remarkably like a promo for this guy's book. Several of the links take you to a site where you can buy it.
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    It doesn't really matter because radical islam is now an ally. No need to worry about them anymore.
     
  4. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    i will have to do some searching to find links to articles etc. but everything i followed here detailed mcveighs, and nichols involvement with far right extremists, including very documented association with militias such as the michigan militia.

    from what i see the article fails to mention that nichols wife is from the phillipines. his "mail order" bride (my term) that he went several times to go see before getting her to this country. why mcveigh was along for the ride, i dont know, but if he was looking for an easy... well... lets just say there are reasons that he could have gone. and none of the islamic links in the phillipines have ever been proven. just thrown out there as a reason with no evidence. the only evidence there is for either of the men to have gone is nichols wife.

    what i find interesting about the "article" is that they are saying john doe number 2 was "foreign looking". i can promise you, that is their opinion, not fact. my cousin is a dead ringer for the picture of john doe #2. so much so that when i first saw it on tv, it scared the hell out of me. only because i know my cousin so well did i know there is no way it could have been him. but enough people thought the same as i did, that the fbi received a lot of tips that he matched the picture, and not long after it came out, the fbi showed up at his business, spending the better part of a day talking to him, and interviewing all of his employees who vouched for his whereabouts, to the point of background checks on the employees. so, again, to say jd#2 was foreign looking is opinion, not fact. (i can promise you my cousin does not look "foreign".)

    everything i am going on is from memory of things i have read in the past. but everything i have read that contains hard evidence points to right wing militia. personally, i believe that mcveigh being a vet is only incidental.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    McVeigh wrote a lot before the attack and was involved with a number of right-wing groups. All of his writings are about fascist rage against the government. There is nothing remotely Islamic in them.
     
  6. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    Who burned down the apartment complex in San Diego? Who destroyed LSU's Veterinary Science building? Who bombed a bio-tech facility in California? Who vandalized a Forest Service research center in Pennsylvania? Who vandalized a cancer research center at the University of Minnesota? Who firebombed a research facility at Michigan State University?

    We should be looking for potential terrorists of all shapes, sizes, and colors but the ones who have the proven history are ALF, ELF, and PETA.

    Follow the money trails of these groups and you'll find much of their funding comes from liberal environmentalist groups. Why aren't we talking more about these groups? Coincidence? Political? You be the judge but these are the true dangers we should be watching...NOT our returning veterans.
     
  7. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    there are extremists on both ends. far left and far right. the militias have caused just as much havoc. there is just as much proven history there.

    im not saying discount the loonies on the far left. im saying dont discount either end of the spectrum.

    as i stated in my earlier post. that mcveigh was a vet i believe is incidental to his beliefs. but the fact that he was heavily involved with far right militias has been documented and proven.
     
  8. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    He wouldn't need to be a muslim to be helped by them. Not saying the islamic link is true...I'm still researching that before I decide.
     
  9. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    I agree. We should be looking over, under, behind us, and all directions to find foreign and domestic terrorists. I think the uproar was all started by a highly politically motive that backfired. I mentioned ALF, ELF, and PETA because these are groups that not only have well documented histories but have consistently been involved in these practices.

    Why would we waste our resources speculating on a "long-shot" terrorist instead of taking action against known terrorists?
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, who? Incidentally, LSU's Veterinary Science building has never been destroyed.

    Who bombed the Oklahoma City Federal Building, who bombed the Atlanta Olympics, who runs the survivalist "militias", who bombs abortion clinics, who murders doctors? Right-wing extremist terrorists. Home grown, no Islamic connections.
     

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