Dad posts pic of kid w/ gun, Family Services threatens to take kid

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  1. wjray

    wjray .-.. ..- -.- .

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    Check out this document. Doesn't get a lot of play these days, but I think the fourth amendment to it might apply here. http://www.usconstitution.net/const.pdf
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I have been chastened for making point-by-point rebuttals, so I tried not to state the obvious.

    What laws? Modern tort law, specifically invasion of privacy, a commonly used cause of action in legal pleadings. More specifically, intrusion of solitude: physical or electronic intrusion into one's private quarters.

    What Constitutional right? The fourth amendment, which which guards citizens in their "homes, houses, papers, and effects" against unreasonable searches and seizures, along with requiring any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause.
     
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  3. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    What search? What seizure? They asked questions, were asked to leave and they left. No search was conducted. Nothing was seized.

    Shit, I'll post the text of the 4th Amendment to make it easy for you:
    Again, what law was broken? What Constitutional Right was violated?
     
    MLUTiger, Mar 25, 2013
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Only because it was thwarted by a citizen who had a lawyer.

    Repeating yourself is getting you nowhere. You have been answered.

    The aforementioned laws and rights were threatened. An attempt was certainly made to search without a warrant when no evidence of law-breaking existed. We are protected from unwarranted searches by law. Even if it was thwarted by a citizen it was still an unwarranted search.
     
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  5. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    LMAO... You are so full of fucking shit. A search that never takes place is not a search. Just answer the damn question and stop dancing around it. You KNOW nothing illegal happened. "Almost" happened is nowhere in the realm of actually happening and you look foolish for trying to draw the comparison.
     
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  6. plotalot

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    Two separate government agencies got together in an attempt to violate a family's rights through lies and deception. If it were two of us, instead of government goon squads, I'd bet one or both of us would be facing conspiracy charges.
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Your indian name is "Hair Splitter". Just because an unwarranted search is thwarted does not mean it never happened. Officials showed up at a persons porch and officially tried to search the house. if you can't understand what was wrong here, I can't help you.

    Note that no one is agreeing with you, speaking of "full of shit".
     
    red55, Mar 27, 2013
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  8. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Not our problem if he has sand in his pussy, just let him be amigo.
     
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  9. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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  10. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    yep
     
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