Convict U? LSU football arrests vs. other programs

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  1. Tiger_fan

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    First of all, not only do our football players graduate at a higher rate (77%) than LSU students as a whole (67%), but they also graduate at a higher rate than anybody else in the SEC other than Vandy, and ESPN does report that:

    ESPN: "LSU has the second-highest graduation rate in the SEC behind only Vanderbilt. LSU's graduation rate has increased for five consecutive years under Miles."

    ESPN: "Vanderbilt and LSU are the top two football programs in the SEC in terms of graduation success rate. The latest graduation success rate (GSR) scores were released by the NCAA on Thursday, and Vanderbilt checked in at 85 percent and LSU at 77 percent."

    LSUsports.net: "LSU ranks second in the SEC to only Vanderbilt in the most recent release of graduation rates"

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    Now, let's look at what teams had the most players arrested in the last three years (which is as far back as the only two sources for college football arrests i could find go -- NBC Sports College Football Talk Police Blotter and ArrestNation.com)

    note that those two sources missed out on a number of arrests, for example, neither of them list the arrests of T-Bob Hebert or Terrence Toliver (which i list below). so this isn't the full list of the number of players each team has arrested in the last 3 years, just a partial one. feel free to point out more

    Florida (16)
    Loucheiz Purifoy (February 3, 2013)
    Jessamen Dunker (January 16, 2013)
    Trip Thurman (October 28, 2012)
    Leon Orr 2 (May 14, 2012)
    A.C. Leonard (February 15, 2012)
    Leon Orr (January 10, 2012)
    Marcus Roberson (September 14, 2011)
    Dee Finley (September 12, 2011)
    Jon Halapio (August 28, 2011)
    Matt Elam (July 24, 2011)
    De’Ante Saunders (May 25, 2011)
    Chris Martin (May 24, 2011)
    Kedric Johnson (May 24, 2011)
    Janoris Jenkins 2 (April 23, 2011)
    Janoris Jenkins (January 22, 2011)
    Chris Rainey (September 14, 2010)

    Missouri (16 - even the coach got arrested)
    Ka’ra Stewart (December 17, 2012)
    Corbin Berkstresser (May 15, 2012)
    Torey Boozer (October 3, 2012)
    Dorial Green-Beckham (October 3, 2012)
    Levi Copelin (October 3, 2012)
    Maty Mauk (August 30, 2012)
    Chris Freeman (April 16, 2012)
    Ashton Glaser 2 (March 11, 2012)
    Gary Pinkel (November 16, 2011)
    Tristen Holt (September 10, 2011)
    Jimmy Burge 2 (January 17, 2011)
    Jimmy Burge (October 2, 2010)
    Derrick Washington (September 12, 2010)
    Ashton Glaser (September 8, 2010)
    Beau Brinkley (August 29 , 2010)
    Will Ebner (August 22, 2010)

    Arkansas (13)
    Austin Flynn (February 12, 2013)
    Terrell Williams (November 4, 2012)
    Chris Smith (October 10, 2012)
    Maudrecus Humphrey (May 12, 2012)
    Andrew Peterson (May 12, 2012)
    Marquel Wade (May 12, 2012)
    Tyler Gilbert (April 17, 2012)
    Kane Whitehurst (April 1, 2012)
    Jason Peacock (March 16, 2012)
    Anthony Oden (July 9, 2011)
    Ross Rasner (April 15, 2011)
    Lance Ray (January 29, 2011)
    Dequinta “D.D.” Jones (October 27, 2010)

    Georgia (12)
    Ty Flournoy-Smith (February 22, 2013)
    Matt Stagg (November 8, 2012)
    Isaiah Crowell (June 29, 2012)
    Chase Vasser (May 11, 2012)
    Branden Smith (March 11, 2012)
    Sanders Commings (January 21, 2012)
    Cornelius Washington (October 2, 2011)
    Caleb King (October 11, 2010)
    Demetre Baker (September 26, 2010)
    Alec Ogletree (September 3, 2010)
    Washaun Ealey (August 27, 2010)
    Zach Mettenberger (March 08, 2010)

    Auburn (10)
    Antonio M. Goodwin (March 11, 2011)
    Harrison D. Mosley (March 11, 2011)
    Kowaski Q. Kitchens (March 11, 2011)
    Michael A. McNeil (March 11, 2011)
    Eric Smith (March 2, 2011)
    Onterrio McCalebb (May 14, 2011)
    Quan Bray (September 27, 2012)
    Reese Dismukes (August 25, 2012)
    Trovon Reed (May 10, 2012)
    Zeke Pike (June 23, 2012)

    Ole Miss (9)
    Philander Moore (March 16, 2013)
    Bo Wallace (January 19, 2012)
    Clarence Jackson (May 13, 2011)
    Delvin Jones (May 13, 2011)
    Evan Ingram (March 14, 2011)
    Jamal Mosley (August 21, 2011)
    Jamal Mosley 2 (July 21, 2012)
    Randall Mackey (August 23, 2011)
    Melvin Harris (Decoember 1, 2010)

    Kentucky (9)
    Ben Heeney (January 20, 2013)
    T.J. James (January 4, 2013)
    Marcus Caffey (September 13, 2012)
    Bookie Cobbins (September 13, 2012)
    Raymond Sanders (September 13, 2012)
    Ridge Wilson (February 26, 2012)
    Mark Crawford (February 27, 2011)
    Mike Hartline (December 10, 2010)
    Matt Roark (October 24, 2010)

    Alabama (8 -- including a coach)
    D.J. Pettway (February 11, 2013)
    Tyler Hayes (February 11, 2013)
    Brent Calloway (February 11, 2013)
    Eddie Williams (February 11, 2013)
    Eddie Williams (February 10, 2013)
    Derrick Crudup Jr. (May 29, 2012) -- offensive grad assistant coach
    Brent Calloway (October 21, 2011)
    Mark Barron (March 20, 2011)

    Texas A&M (7)
    Kirby Ennis (February 1, 2013)
    Kenneth Ray Marshall (November 29, 2012)
    Jordan Trevon Richmond (November 29, 2012)
    Johnny Manziel (June 29, 2012)
    Kyle Mangan (August 7, 2011)
    Damontre Moore (June 3, 2011)
    Matthew Joeckel (October 17, 2010)

    South Carolina (6 -- including a coach)
    Tanner McEvoy (July 29, 2012)
    Angelo Watley (February 26, 2012)
    Byron Jerideau (January 13, 2012)
    G.A. Mangus (July 26, 2011) -- QB coach
    Edward Muldrow (July 14, 2011)
    DeVonte Holloman (June 17, 2011)

    Tennessee (6)
    Cameron Clear (May 22, 2012)
    Brendan Downs (November 26, 2012)
    Austin Johnson (July 24, 2011)
    Brent Brewer (February 13, 2011)
    Doak Raulston (November 20, 2010)
    Jacques Smith (October 31, 2010)

    LSU (5)
    Jeremy Hill (April 27, 2013)
    Jordan Jefferson (August 26, 2011)
    Joshua Johns (August 26, 2011)
    T-Bob Hebert (May 2010)
    Terrance Toliver (March 2010)

    Miss state (4)
    Chad Bumphis (January 1, 2012)
    Chris Hughes (August 31, 2011)
    Deontae Skinner (June 5, 2011)
    Dennis Thames (May 31, 2011)

    Vandy (1)
    Andre Simmons (November 15, 2011)


    and of course, this is your reigning Heisman-winner, Consensus All-American, Davey O'Brien Award-winner, Manning Award winner, Sporting News College Football Player of the Year, and SEC Offensive Player of the Year... JOOOOHHHHNNNYYYYYY MANZIEL!!!!

    he'd already been charged with at least three misdemeanors at A&M before he won all those awards:
    --misdemeanor disorderly conduct
    --misdemeanor failure to identify
    --misdemeanor possession of a fictitious driver's license
    June 29, 2012 -- the incident occurred just after 2 a.m. in a street in the Northgate entertainment district (which borders Texas A&M). an officer witnessed Manziel exchanging punches with another man. when officers asked Manziel for an ID, he produced a phony Louisiana driver's license that showed his birthday as Dec. 6, 1990. Police checked Manziel's wallet and found two more ID cards -- a fake Texas driver's license and Manziel's real driver's license that listed his date of birth as Dec. 6, 1992.

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  2. Tiger_fan

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    and compare to some other football programs outside the SEC:

    Washington State (19)
    Gabe Marks (February 17, 2013)
    Drew Loftus (February 1, 2013)
    Leon Brooks (January 27, 2013)
    Chester Su’a (November 9, 2012)
    Brett Kingma (October 20, 2012)
    Anthony Laurenzi (July 22, 2012)
    Travis Long (July 20, 2012)
    Spencer Waseem (April 11, 2012)
    Denzell Dotson (April 8, 2012)
    Sekope Kaufusi (February 29, 2012)
    Zach Koepp (February 12, 2012)
    C.J. Mizell (February 6, 2012)
    Laaulialemalietoa “Lawrence” Tuioti (October 22, 2011)
    Louis Bland 2 (May 24, 2011)
    Louis Bland (February 26, 2011)
    Tracy Clark (February 9, 2011)
    Andre Barrington (October 10, 2010)
    Jamal Atofau (October 10, 2010)
    James Montgomery (September 16, 2010)

    Oregon State (14)
    Rudolf Fifita (December 8, 2012)
    Dyllon Mafi (December 8, 2012)
    Mana Rosa (December 8, 2012)
    Chris Miller (October 27, 2012)
    Jordan Poyer (May 19, 2012)
    Malcolm Marable 2 (May 6, 2012)
    Malcolm Marable (February 19, 2012)
    Sean Martin (February 19, 2012)
    Conner Hamlett (August 14, 2011)
    Joe Lopez (August 14, 2011)
    Tyler Perry (August 14, 2011)
    Will Storey (August 14, 2011)
    Castro Masaniai (May 14, 2011)
    Tyler Patrick Thomas (August 22, 2010)

    Pitt (14)
    Andrew Carswell (April 26, 2013)
    Khaynin Mosley-Smith (April 26, 2013)
    Eric Williams (April 26, 2013)
    Steve Williams (November 24, 2012)
    Ray Graham (November 1, 2012)
    Lafayette Pitts (November 1, 2012)
    Devin Street (November 1, 2012)
    Carl Fleming (March 30, 2012)
    Lucas Nix (January 5, 2012)
    Anthony Gonzalez (May 20, 2011)
    Mike Haywood (December 31, 2010)
    Jeff Knox (September 22, 2010)
    Keith Coleman (September 18, 2010)
    Jason Anthony Douglas (September 12, 2010)

    Marshall (14)
    Kevin Grooms (April 21, 2013)
    Angelo Jean-Louis (April 9, 2013)
    Stefone Grace (April 22, 2012)
    Martin Ward 2 (April 22, 2012)
    Phillip Warren (April 22, 2012)
    Corie Wilson (April 22, 2012)
    Martin Ward (April 1, 2012)
    Troy Evans (August 28, 2011)
    Donald Brown (July 10, 2011)
    Tron Martinez (June 24, 2011)
    Brian Robinson (April 4, 2011)
    Grady Kerr (November 7, 2010)
    Antwon Chisholm (August 4, 2010)
    Michael Fleurizard (August 4, 2010)

    Oklahoma (13)
    Stacy McGee 2 (December 24,2012)
    Joe Powell (December 10, 2012)
    Cortez Johnson (December 2, 2012)
    Jalen Saunders (December 2, 2012)
    Roy Finch (December 8, 2011)
    Stephen Good (November 6, 2011)
    Londell Taylor (September 24,2011)
    Jonathan Miller (August 18, 2011)
    Marquis Anderson (April 30, 2011)
    Stacy McGee (February 20, 2011)
    Tony Jefferson (January 22, 2011)
    Kenny Stills (January 22, 2011)
    Tavaris Montrel Jeffries (September 3, 2010)

    Iowa State (13)
    Willie Scott (April 3, 2013)
    Quenton Bundrage (September 21, 2012)
    Pierce Richardson (March 3, 2012)
    Durrell Givens (February 18, 2012)
    Matthew Thomas (February 8, 2012)
    Earl Brooks 2 (January 10, 2012)
    Donnie Jennert (September 11, 2011)
    Walker Lee Woods (September 11, 2011)
    Earl Brooks (July 24, 2011)
    Ben Barkema (May 1, 2011)
    Ricky Howard (March 5, 2011)
    Jacob Lattimer (March 5, 2011)
    Matt Tau’fo’ou (January 29, 2011)

    Iowa (11)
    Barkley Hill (November 24, 2012)
    Micah Hyde (October 6, 2012)
    Ray Hamilton (October 6, 2012)
    Drew Clark (October 5, 2012)
    De’Andre Johnson 1 (July 28, 2012)
    De’Andre Johnson (July 26, 2012)
    Marcus Binns (July 13, 2012)
    Greg Garmon (June 1, 2012)
    A.J. Derby (October 1, 2011)
    Adam Robinson (December 27, 2010)
    Derrell Johnson-Koulianos (December 7, 2010)

    Kansas (11)
    Nick Sizemore (April 14 2013)
    Ben Heeney (January 13, 2013)
    Chris Robinson (April 21, 2012)
    Collin Garrett (April 21, 2012)
    James Sims (April 8, 2012)
    Ben McLemore (December 13, 2011)
    Cooper Kerns (September 3, 2011)
    Deshaun Sands 2 (August 20, 2011)
    Benjamin Heeney (July 16, 2011)
    Chris Omigie (February 5, 2011)
    Deshaun Sands (October 21, 2010)

    Florida State (10)
    James Wilder Jr. 3 (January 6, 2013)
    Greg Reid 2 (July 10, 2012)
    James Wilder Jr. 2 (June 22, 2012)
    James Wilder Jr. (February 22, 2012),
    Arrington Jenkins (December 18, 2011)
    Avis Commack (December 16, 2011)
    Greg Reid (September 26, 2011)
    Jermaine Thomas 2 (February 10, 2011)
    Jermaine Thomas (February 4, 2011)
    Mister Alexander (September 7, 2010)

    Purdue (10)
    Dwayne Beckford 2 (August 27, 2012)
    Sean Collins (July 14, 2012)
    Patrick Bade (June 30, 2012)
    Antavian Edison (May 6, 2012)
    Ralph Bolden (April 15, 2012)
    D.J. Byrd (February 17, 2012)
    Will Lucas (December 19, 2011)
    Gerald Gooden (December 19, 2011)
    Dwayne Beckford (December 16, 2011)
    Matt Huene (November 12, 2011)

    Virginia Tech (9)
    Michael Holmes (April 21, 2013)
    Dahman McKinnon (January 28, 2013)
    Brian Rody (December 2, 2012)
    Joshua Trimble (December 2, 2012)
    Dadi Nicolas (June 22, 2012)
    Telvion Clark (March 18, 2012)
    Cody Journell (December 21, 2011)
    Xavier Boyce (March 24, 2011)
    Lyndell Gibson (February 5, 2011)

    Oklahoma State (9)
    Calvin Barnett 2 (October 30, 2012)
    Tracy Moore (August 24, 2012)
    Isaac Maselera (June 28, 2012)
    Christian Littlehead 2 (May 19, 2012)
    Calvin Barnett (April 30, 2012)
    Teddy Johnson (April 21, 2012)
    Christian Littlehead (December 12, 2011)
    Jonathan Rush (December 12, 2011)
    Justin Blackmon (October 26, 2010)

    Syracuse (9)
    Markus Pierce-Brewster (March 2013)
    Davon Walls (March 2013)
    Steve Rene (December 2, 2012)
    Marquis Spruill (December 2, 2012)
    Terrel Hunt (January 24, 2012)
    Jonathan Miller (August 3, 2011)
    Marcus Sales (July 29, 2011)
    Jarrod West (May 20, 2011)
    Malcolm Cater (December 11, 2010)

    Illinois (9)
    Justin Staples (February 9, 2012)
    Jordan Frysinger (November 12, 2011)
    Kenneth Knight (November 12, 2011)
    Ashante Williams (July 30, 2011)
    Chris Jones (July 3, 2011)
    Jason Ford (April 24, 2011)
    Evan Frierson (November 13, 2010)
    Hugh Thornton (September 26, 2010)
    Michael Buchanan (September 5, 2010)

    Oregon (8)
    Isaac Remington (October 12, 2012)
    Josh Huff (March 3, 2012)
    Cliff Harris 3 (November 25, 2011)
    Cliff Harris 2 (October 24, 2011)
    Cliff Harris (June 12, 2011)
    Tyson Coleman (May 28, 2011)
    Kiko Alonso (May 1, 2011)
    Dustin Haines (April 16, 2011)

    Michigan (8)
    Fitzgerald Toussaint (July 21, 2012)
    Frank Clark (June 2012)
    Will Campbell (April 7, 2012)
    Josh Furman (February 11, 2012)
    Darryl Stonum 3 (January 5, 2012)
    Marvin Robinson (November 2011)
    Darryl Stonum 2 (May 6, 2011)
    Darryl Stonum 1 (June 2010)

    West Virginia (8)
    Travis Bell (February 17, 2013)
    Karl Joseph (February 16, 2013)
    Branko Busick (July 11, 2011)
    Brandon Hogan (September 12, 2010)
    Darwin Cook (May 8, 2012)
    Ford Childress (April 19, 2012)
    Jorge Wright (April 28, 2011)
    Terence Garvin (May 8, 2012)

    TCU (7)
    Casey Pachall (Ocotber 4, 2012)
    Cory Grant (July 17, 2011)
    Devin Johnson (February 15, 2012)
    D.J. Yendrey (February 15, 2012)
    Ross Evans (November 21, 2011)
    Tanner Brock (February 15, 2012)
    Ty Horn (February 15, 2012)

    Texas (7)
    Kendall Sanders (April 6, 2013)
    Cayleb Jones (March 12, 2013)
    Connor Brewer (February 2, 2013)
    Barrett Matthews (May 7, 2012)
    Alex Okafor (May 7, 2012)
    Kenny Vaccaro (May 7, 2012)
    Christian Scott (August 8, 2011)

    Ohio State (7)
    Bri’onte Dunn (July 2012)
    Storm Klein (July 6, 2012)
    Jack Mewhort (June 2, 2012)
    Jacob Stoneburner (June 2, 2012)
    Dominic Clarke 2 (January 7, 2012)
    Jaamal Berry (November 2, 2011)
    Dominic Clarke (October 9, 2011)
     
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    compare that to the arrests on the LSU baseball team, which has a lot less players:
    Carson Baranik (February 11, 2012)
    Tyler Jones (February 14, 2011)
    Kevin Koziol (January 16, 2011)
     
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    to give you an idea of how obsessed the locals get over the news of a local football player arrested, this is from the Roanoke Times website, roanoke.com (Roanoke is located 40 miles east of Virginia Tech), which is the primary newspaper in Southwestern Virginia (where Virginia Tech is located)

    http://blogs.roanoke.com/timessquar...tball-player-dominates-most-read-web-stories/

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    Holmes, who was a freshman last year, was the two-time Virginia 2A Player of the Year after rushing for 2,877 yards and 41 TD as a senior (7.7 ypc) and 2,749 yards and 41 TD as a junior
     
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    Thanks for putting things in perspective TF. I agree it is goodthat LSU fans demand that the teams act properly and not excuse bad behavior. What is sad and funny is the chicken little response of so many. Les runs a good program and demands his players act as good students and citizens. He has not been afraid to discipline even key players (RP, TM et al) and will if Hill shows it is required.
    To compare us to Thug U or even the record Nicky has a UAT is foolish and to wail that we are getting a bad reputation is ridiculous.
     
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    note that when Jay Culter (the current starting QB of the Bears) was at Vanderbilt, he was issued FOUR MISDEMEANOR citations by campus police for underage consumption of alcohol, vandalism under $500, evading arrest and resisting stop-halt orders (ALL OF THIS HAPPENED ON CAMPUS). he went on to be the captain of the Vandy football team, set the all-time Vandy school records in passing yards, TD passes, completions, total offense, and total TDs, as well as being named the 2005 SEC Offensive Player of the Year and being taken 1st Round in the 2006 NFL Draft

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    Dude, I wish I had your free time.
     
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    I notice that Janzen Jackson isn't listed with Tennessee....wasn't he driving the getaway Prius in that gas station robbery where he was wearing is Tennessee athletic department hoodie with his number on it? :p
     
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    Well, i'll keep you in my prayers
     
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    If i remember right and got it right when i looked.it up briefly earlier...that was 2009...times flies
     

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