Black History month has nothing to do with religion. You just refuse to see the point. No. You made the comment that the church had a right to deny contraception based on freedom of religion. So I responded with "Cuts both ways. Some want freedom to practice their own religious beliefs. Others want freedom not to have another's religion beliefs imposed upon them." Nothing about people being forced to work, just that freedom of religion works to protect both the religious and the non-religious. It doesn't give religions any special rights. Constitutional rights belong to individuals.
Religions can't force people to do anything, so people don't need any protection from religions. The state can force religions to do things except for that pesky 1st amendment.
I didn't do anything special for black history month. Did you? Now for my period, when I had one, I did many things extra like buy tampons/pads, aspirin, doubled over in pain, saw a doctor to see why I was in so much pain, saw a doctor to see why I was having a period twice a month, just to name a few. I do one thing extra for not having a period. Give myself a shot. i bet you would be willing to pay whatever cost less for you to control women's period who are on gov assistance because you are paying these things for those women. It wouldn't matter there religion.
COme on . . . The Crusades, The Spanish Inquisition, The Holocaust, and about a thousand other examples of religious persecution at the hands of government. It's why the Pilgrims left England. It's why Freedom of Religion is in the Constitution.
So you agree? In 2012 America religions can't force people to do anything. If people choose to work for a church organization that doesnt pay for contraception they are doing it by choice, not because a state sponsored church is forcing them to.
1st, I don't take issue with health care covering contraception. 2nd, I do not believe in religion. 3rd, you aren't forced to work for an organization that has what you would consider less than average health coverage.. Me, I have options.. I am apart of the Texas Air National Guard. With that, I have access to family health care for $200 a month. Cheap huh. HOWEVER, because I know the system sucks ass and I have to fight tooth and nail to get them to pay for ****, I pay $600 a month for healthcare through the company I work for in which I have zero co-pay and no hassle at all..... They have a really good package and was one of the reasons I accepted the job offer...
A church does have the right to practice their religion under the constitution.. "Constitutional rights belong to individuals." Individuals form religions. The constitution gives them right to practice said religion freely. Even Jedi have the right... Jedi Church - Jedi Religion and Jedi Faith Again red55, if YOU CHOOSE to work for the catholic church, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO USE THEIR HEALTH CARE PACKAGE... Just because they do not offer what you want, for religious reasons, gives you not right TO FORCE THEM TO CHANGE.....
And that, my friend, is what is wrong with Americans. The CONSTITUTION does not GIVE you anything! You have these rights as a human being. The CONSTITUTION says that GOVERNMENT does not have the power to take away these rights. With that said... No business should be required to provide any coverage for anything. If a business does not want to offer coverage then the person working for them is completely within her rights to GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I do not agree. The Constitution is there to prevent such things, but it is tested all of the time. All of these state attempts to prevent or make legal abortions difficult to obtain are based in religious beliefs. Now the Catholic church is going after contraception, too. Catholic Republican candidates (Santorum) are going on record with it as a political platform. "Contraception is a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be." -- Rick Santorum Charles Pierce responded very tellingly . . . Read more: Rick Santorum on Contraception - Santorum's War Against Women, Continued - Esquire
No one has disputed that. No has disputed this, either. It's not me, it's the federal government. And yes the government does have the right to make religions conform to the laws. Mormons are not permitted to practice polygamy. Pagan religions are not allowed to perform human sacrifices. There are also matters involving human rights. There are quite a number of things that a university (religious or not) cannot do if it expects to receive federal grants and contracts. It cannot discriminate. It must conform to certain standards. The reason that a line is being drawn here is that religions get no special treatment under the law. To disallow contraception here would have enabled any employers or insurers to opt out of portions of the health care law that they found "morally objectionable." That would have included the law's requirement that insurers cover the costs of birth control. The measure would have allowed employers and insurers to opt out of virtually any medical treatment with the mere mention of a moral or religious objection.
