Contraception....

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  1. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC It's Been Long Enough

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    Beyond the name calling from both sides that this is either a War on Religion by the left or a War on Women by the right, where do you think we will ultimately land on this issue when the dust settles?

    The current rhetoric is obviously election year pandering by both parties to their respective bases. I don't understand why we cannot respect Religious freedoms by not requiring religious institutions (which needs to be clearly defined) to pay for contraception coverage but still allow the person to pay for contraceptives out of their own pocket.

    It would be a great over reach of power by the federal government to require churches or religious institutions (which, like I said, need to be clearly defined) to provide a service that is contrary to their core beliefs.

    By that same reasoning, to not allow a United States citizen access to contraception at all just because they work for a religious institution would be an equal violation of that persons individual freedom.

    Now, as I stated twice before, we need a clear definition of what a "religious institution" is so we don't have every Tom, Dick and Harry claiming that their business is "religious" just because they want to impose their own morality on others. We also need those lines clearly defined to protect the religious organizations from the federal government.

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Let's have a drink.

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    Who is stopping them from going to the local drug store?


    Also. its because of this ideal that your employer should GIVE you good health care....


    ITS A BONUS.....
     
  3. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    people seem to think birth control pills are only for contraception. they are not. they are also used to help control endometriosis and heavy menstrual cycles.

    as a side note to that, prescribing birth control pills for endometriosis before a woman is ready to have children will actually help her when she is ready. by controlling the endometriosis, the tubes and ovaries will have less damage.

    so when birth control pills are prescribed for a medical condition, is it going to be denied because of what else they are for?

    as long as insurance covers viagra, then they need to cover birth control.
     
  4. Bestbank Tiger

    Bestbank Tiger Founding Member

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    1) In a lot of cases, the pill is covered when medically indicated, just not when it's elective medicine.

    2) If an insurance plan doesn't cover Viagra should it be allowed to exclude the pill?
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    why deprive everyone the rights that the religious have to deny whatever they want? why should only religious institutions be free to deny coverage?

    besides, you cant really "prove" that your are or are not a religion. i just started a religion 1 second ago that is just as valid as the most popular religions.

    obviously the solution is that government doesnt take any stand on anything, provides no one with any coverage and doesnt impose any sorts of standards on who has to provide what to whom.
     
  6. southerntgr

    southerntgr Veteran Member

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    I take birth control pills to regulate my period. If my doctor would give me a hysterectomy I would be all for it but he won't so that leaves birth control pills or now a shot so I don't have periods at all.

    No, insurances don't see it as a medical need. They really don't care if I have irregular periods. The day you think insurance companies care about your health is the day you are in big trouble. They want to pay as less as they can. I use to be in HR benefits. I had to get out. I couldn't deal with insurance companies anymore.
     
  7. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC It's Been Long Enough

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    We're not talking about condoms. Everyone knows you can go to the drug store or the health department to get condoms. We are talking about whether a faith based employers health care plan will cover birth control pills for an employee when the employers faith and/or religion prohibits the use of birth control.
     
  8. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC It's Been Long Enough

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    what does this sentence mean, Martin?

    Exactly, it's very subjective.

    the courts will render a decision on government health care mandates soon enough.
     
  9. Bestbank Tiger

    Bestbank Tiger Founding Member

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  10. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    that is too bad. mine did pay for it. i dont think the men who make these decisions dont understand the debilitating pain things like endemetriosis and abnormally heavy periods cause. not to mention what it is doing to a womans ability to conceive.

    i had extremely bad endometriosis and later developed adenomyosis at an age normally not seen. so i understand your pain. literally. it is absolute hell, and that is putting it mildly. that is why it boggles my mind that some insurance companies wont even cover birth control for medical reasons.
     

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