Confederate Statues

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  1. LSUpride123

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    And then?
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Where is that dude anyway. Haven't seen him around.
     
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  4. mctiger

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    Really? If you were a black parent, and your black child asked you about one of those statues, you think a better example is to play the poor angry victim card, then to explain what happened, and then say, despite what's happened in the past, look what you can be now? I feel sorry for your children.
     
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  5. Rex

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    That's a false choice.

    Why can't she BOTH explain what happened and still be in favor of taking them down?

    Let's see.... if Obama's Administration erected a statue on your courthouse lawn that said "every white person in this city is subhuman" you think you would be OK with that? Would you just explain to your children that "hey, that's just history, let me explain how it happened"?
     
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    She explained why exactly. You just aren't being intellectually fair-minded enough to allow another's point of view. And you want to talk about a false choice? That "subhuman" bullshit you're talking about is YOUR INTERPRETATION of what the statues say. I was in college during the South Africa Apartheid outrage. A couple of black men who had gotten out did a speaking engagement on our campus, and one of them showed me a card all black people in SA were required to carry. It said - and I mean, this was printed on the card - "BECAUSE YOU ARE BLACK..." and then went on to specify the basic human freedoms they were denied. That, my friend, is being called subhuman, not the abstract meaning of a 130-year old statue.
     
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  8. Rex

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    She's entitled to her opinion. She doesn't, however, speak for all black people and she can't negate the insult.
     
  9. LSUpride123

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    No. She cant negate YOUR insult or YOUR white guilt. You are right. You become triggered by what you choose.
     
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  10. Rex

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    Guess what? MANY of those statues in this country were erected during a time when black people in this country couldn't use the same bathrooms, drink from the same water fountains, couldn't attend the same schools, had to ride at the back of the bus.... BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK. Are you suggesting people in South Africa should abide statues telling them they're inferior to whites? Because it's their history? Well, that's EXACTLY what those statues HERE say. Those are men in Confederate uniforms fighting to keep people enslaved BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK.
     

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