Coach Mainieri , please hire Stony Brooks hitting coach ...

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  1. fanatic

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    Maybe, but I don't see how a statement like 'a hitting coach is overrated' can be taken out of context. Not saying it's not possible, but on the surface, his opinion sounds pretty clear.
     
  2. TCUTiger

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    I think the stat of LSU players averaging 3 pitches per appearance vs 8 for SB is a very telling stat. With the bats what they are pitching is at a premium, if you can tire the pitcher that much earlier then part of the battle is won.
    In addition, I think the "technique" they appeared to use of attempting to get the ball IN PLAY any way they could vs LSU players watching strike after strike go by is purely coaching. The 1-0 games are going to be more common, with the major weapon (the bat) being less of a long range threat. IMO, the SB coach is ahead of his time with his technique.
     
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    The way Turner and Stringer shot this year it couldn't hurt.
     
  4. TCUTiger

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    Ok TT let me slooooow this down just for you. There are more than a few articles as of late that touch on the subject
    of the NEW college baseball bat. It DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH POWER!!! Suffice to say, the "game has changed" in the last 2 years.(A fact a Coach better understand) SB as evidenced by THEIR RECORD AND PERFORMANCE has apparently figured that out FAR BETTER THAN LSU. The "hitting techniuqe" used by LSU leads one to believe that the way LSU used to play is the way they NEED TO play. SB SCHOOLED LSU on hitting in this S.R.!!! Since all of their hitters seemed to hit almost the same way (swing at strikes) and put the ball in play some kind of way, I am led to believe it is THEIR CURRENT COACH, not their little league coach or any other level before college. NO WHERE in any post I made, have I said one word about Jr/Sr High coaching. As has been pointed out by others, Manieri has some problems despite winning the SEC reg season and hosting a regional....................all that means LITTLE to the players for sure and many fans if they can't even get TO Omaha. I see a trend and there are others that do also, I don't care how many games Manieri has won.

    My post also mentioned NOTHING about MLB, not sure how you keep connecting 'my dots". As far as I can see MLB paying what they do to so many very young players is just like walking into a casino and plopping down a bunch of money on some game.................sometimes you win, lots of times you don't. Please dont tell me that just because they do it (bet on HS players) they know what they are doing in every case or even a majority of them.
     
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    Bingo!
     
  6. alfredeneuman

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    Suffice to say all of us, incl coaches and players, were frustrated with the hitting, esp the latter part of the season. But I saw more than enough base running errors to go along with the lack of hitting. CM has shown in the past he's willing to make changes when necessary. If it were simply coaching, SB's approach at the plate would have worked regardless of the bat. Yet, before this year no one had hardly heard of SB and their coach has been there for 16 years. They have had a great year, same as Kent State. CM has kept LSU competitive in the toughest conference in the nation nearly every season he's been here. That should count for something. SB has had a season where everything was in place and it worked out for them. But they don't have a program that EXPECTS to get to every Omaha every year. So I'll reserve judgment on CM until SB has a few more regional, super regional and national championships. Just my .02
     
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    SB by itself doesn't have jack to do with where the LSU program is under Paul Mainieri. What they did was expose glaring, major deficiencies in LSU's game and its talent, with shocking ease. Deficiencies that were covered up for the most part by low-scoring games with good pitching. Deficiencies that thus far see little evidence of improvement.

    As for making changes when necessary, Grewe was only dismissed when he became an enormous liability through the number of pitchers he put on the shelf, and for managing to piss off enough HS coaches and parents. Mainieri has made it crystal clear in those comments that he won't fire his Notre Dame golden boy with zero prior coaching experience. The only question is will he do it to save his own neck if the seat starts getting too hot.
     
  8. alfredeneuman

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    Well, you're right about SB exposing LSU's flaws. It's only a matter of time before they expose UF, South Carolina and Arkansas, too. After all, LSU was talented enough to win series' against all three of those teams in this year's CWS. Look, I hate the fact they lost the way they did, and at home just makes it that much worse. But I'm not ready to throw the under he bus because he didn't beat a team who had over 50 wins and 7 players drafted.
     
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    And I'm not going to defend his borderline idiotic statement apparently made to defend a crony hire. As I said, we overachieved this year with the current level of talent. That we are even in this state 3 years after a national championship while SC is defending their back-to-back titles in Omaha is troubling.
     
  10. alfredeneuman

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    So which do you think it is, talent or coaching or both?
     

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