Closing out Games Emphasis of Fall Practice

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Lee earned the chance. Your grandma could have done better than Jefferson.
     
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    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Correct, it was, if I recall still a 1 score game mid way through the 4th so why not let the one guy that had a prayer of hitting a deep ball into the game. It was clear after 3 1/2 quarters of football that 9 wasn't going to get us there. Damn I hate that dude. He really should have been a blow job.
     
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  3. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Shane your last 2 sentences really tell the story. You and others hate Jefferson so much that it clouds your otherwise good powers of observation. Jefferson wasn't very good but he had two attributes that stood him better than Lee against Bama. First he was mobile and second he could take a hit. Poor Lee was neither. Go back and watch film of Lee against bama in the Nov game. After he was hit on the first play he was unable to gather his wits. Look again at his two ints. Both times he threw the ball without looking and it seems he wanted to get rid of it rather than get hit. The second was particularly bad as there were no Bama rushers near and DP was breaking open behind the Bama D. Lee threw the ball behind and short right into the defender's hands. If you have served in battle you know there are some who cannot stand in the heat of the fire. Lee could not stand in the heat of the football battle. IMO his bravery was in the fact he kept going back to fight. That does him great honor.
    On January 9, with the way the O line was playing Lee would have been crushed and if he had gotten the ball out to think he could have hit a deep receiver is dreaming. Lee deserved more PT after the Nov game. I wish he had started Ole Miss and played more.
    However to put him in on late Jan 9 would have done him no favor and not helped the Tigers. Look at Tiger Taps stats and think again.
     
  4. BRETT

    BRETT LSU FAN Staff Member

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    I think Chavis is a great DC but he screwed the pooch on that last drive. He played soft and it cost us the game. Anyone could tell by the formation what was coming.
     
  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    @Winston1 Hmm, I recall a game, I believe it was the grass eating game but I could be wrong. Either way it was LSU/bama and LSU was ahead late in the 4th. Tigers down deep in their own side of the field. Trying to run the clock out but it is 3rd and long, don't convert and they have to punt and give bama momentum and a short field. Who does Les bring in to throw a CRITICAL deep ball, a geaux route down the sideline to ice the game? Refresh my memory as to who it was? I'm pretty sure it couldn't have been 9
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Lee's performance as a Freshman is irrelevant. He got pulled too early against Alabama in 2011. Les was just looking for an opportunity to replace him with Jefferson.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Look, criticism of a players performance doesn't mean anyone hates him. That's bullshit. Jeffersons return in 2011 displacing Lee was a disaster for the team. The line didn't block well for him. Receivers were not getting the ball. I don't think the team liked the switch too much. Did they get a vote? Nope.

    Well, he lost both games, so pardon me if I think his "attributes" amounted to no advantage at all.

    Indeed. Lee earned it on the field. He was foolish for cutting classes, if that was actually the thing for Les (I don't believe it). But he was making good decisions and throwing the ball well in 2011 against a lot of top competition. Jefferson was never right after his legal trouble and long suspension.

    Most Tiger fans feel otherwise, I'm afraid. Lee was ready to go in. He might have sparked the team. Many things might have happened including many good things.
     
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  8. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    That says a lot, right there. Perspective.
     
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  9. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    I have to disagree with you in regard to JJ. Shane said he hated JJ and that he should have been a blow job. That goes beyond criticism of his mediocre performance.

    Many LSU fans really, really seem to hate Jefferson. He was booed a ton in his home stadium. People talk so badly about him that you would think he played for Alabama.

    I will be the first to say that he was not a good QB, though his mobility was at times an advantage (who didn't miss that mobility watching Mett last season?) I don't hate the kid, but from the way many fans talk, I feel like some do hate him.

    I think Lee should've gone in on 1/9 because JJ wasn't getting it done. I wish he had gone in. But the best thing ever for the "legend that is Jarrett Lee" was the fact that he didn't go in. I contend with the way our offensive line was getting handled, that he wouldn't have done well, either. As it stands, he is the poor hero who didn't get a chance to save the day, to save the perfect season.

    The way I look at it is that both of the guys had glaring weaknesses--though they had some strengths. Together, they made one thoroughly average QB. And we almost had the best team of all time with that train wreck under center.

    I'm glad both of them are gone, but I get kind of pissed with the way people talk about JJ and romanticize JL.
     
  10. shane0911

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    No doubt about it. I effing hate 9.
     

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