Close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility?

I thought we were going to regain the respect of the world and sing kumbaya with all nations. No need for war anymore. Just something to put in the peace pipe.

 

not dumb at all. W planned to do the same thing just failed to follow through, mostly on advisory of cheney I believe, who was trying change the image from a gulag to nuremberg. fail

obama has a year to sort out which ones to send to leavenworth and those to return to sender but it was going to happen. it was just a matter of when.

Although Obama will be the one with blood on his hands if one of these dregs are found to be involved in any future attacks.

Even though it would have happened otherwise, its still the baby earmarking his new regime.

and regarding changing the methods of torture; not likely. the only real thing that will come out of this is a pretty strong public message.

it will send a message that torture will not be tolerated and more specifically, waterboarding is not an acceptable means of torture and/or interrogation. in reality, does anything really change? No. But it helps the general public sleep better at night.

torture is such a relative term-- especially when dealing with radicals recently strapped with explosives and all prepared to die.

 

Closing Gitmo is a mistake, but having decided to close it, Obama should have least waited until he had a plan in place dealing with the prisoners once the prison was closed. It would be another mistake to move them to the United States and provide them with civil trials. They are enemy combatants who were captured outside the United States. As such they have no constitutional right to a civil trial. A military tribunal is the way to go. Finally, if we don't move them to the United States, where are they to be sent? What we will probably end up doing is to keep many of them incarcerated in some place like Afghanistan until we decide how to deal with them. In effect, close Gitmo and open up a similar facility elswhere.

 

I think closing it is a mistake but i do think we could have worked faster on the decisions to empty it sooner.

I think we should have used a firing squad on the ones known to have killed as terrorist.

Which was alot of them.

Free the ones that were by mistake.

But dont take this long to do it because now they all despise us and anyone of the prisoners released now are gonna do their best to cause retribution for their long detainment.

So at this point build a prison somewhere and hold them as bargain chips for future needs..

 

They will probably end up with a green card and working at the local 7-11.

 

Funny this was such a contraversial topic, but most of us think it is a bad idea to close it. If we are a sample of Americans polled, then where did the idea of it should be closed come from?

 

I dont think there was any huge public outcry for the closing of Guantanamo but it was used as one of the building blocks in campaign issues. If it werent for the video's and reports from Iraq I doubt Gitmo would have become a very big issue. What happened in Iraq drew attention to what was happening in Gitmo.

We need a place to house these types of enemies and Gitmo is perfect. I dont want them on US Soil and they dont meet the criteria for Geneva Convention protection.

 

I have no problem closing Gitmo.

One of the biggest failures of the Bush Administration was that they were never able to legally define the status of the prisoners at Gitmo. Some were al Queda terrorists, some were Taliban fighters, and others were tribal fighters affiliated with the various war lords.

We lumped them all into the un-defined category of "enemy combatant." Closing Gitmo will force the issue. Some of these guys are prisoners of war and are entitled to the rights provided under the Geneva Convention. Others are Terrorists and need to be prosecuted as such. Others need to just be sent back.

We have a year to sort it out.

 

How many more stories like this are we going to see? How soon until American blood will be on the hands of those who released this guy. His rehabilitation worked real well, didnt it? :dis:

I suggest you read the now unclassified documents concerning this supposed "innocent".