You mis read my point. I didn't say fix climate change but address whatever effects it has on us. In other words if the seas rise build barriers or move stuff. If there are other adverse effects address them. One point missed by many climate change mongers is that there will be beneficial effects as well. Man has always tried to modify his enviornment as his level of technology permits. What are clothes and houses and AC and heat but tools to modify our enviornment on a micro scale. If there is excess warming and note my first comment questioned how significant the impact would be, then we address it as we have always by using our brain and skill. The postulate of the whole OP is whether or not man is contributing to the apparent cycle of "Global Warming". I believe the data shows we do. The follow up was what do we do about it? My belief is that we address it as it affects us. You know if it were all due to the earth moving closer to the sun my argument on what to do about it would be the same.
I understand your point. I don't understand the governments and people who support laws in which they tax the people for use of energy (C02 Emissions).
Then why is their record of higher CO2 levels before humans? Was it giant piles of shit from the Dino's? Why has the earth experienced many periods of warming/cooling? Again, why is it you think higher C02 levels are related to a problem?
Pride, I think that abundant natural gas is leading to the decline of coal more than anything else. Natural gas is safer to extract from the ground, burns cleaner and we have a shit ton of it. In fact, I read a study not long ago that stated since natural gas has proliferated in the past 8-10 years that CO2 production here in the states has actually declined. I am not defending the EPA because I would agree that they take things too far, but I think natural gas is having a bigger impact on the coal industry than anything external.
We have a ton of Nat gas, but the BTU content is the major difference. Check the regulations and then get back to me as why coal is declining. Do some research.
First off just because CO2 levels were higher before humans makes no difference. In fact before there was aerobic life the atmosphere was all CO2. What happened in the past can have different cause but the same effect. Earth has experienced many periods of cooling and warming for MANY different causes. Some may have been due to dino shyte as you say or the earth's orbit wobbling or a variation in the sun's output. So what? What happenned 1,000 years ago or 1,000,000 years ago cannot be used to identify what happens today. Don't confuse results and causation. Based on the data we have for TODAY's atmosphere and the models we run it appears man made CO2 is the lets say "straw that broke the camel's back" in the global enviornment. We have the tools to measure the volumne of CO2 that has been added in the last 100 years we can identify the source of that CO2 and sport we can model the effect on weather with and without that CO2. So if the additional heat trapped in the system causes problems such as rising ocean tables flooding coastal cities such as NYC, NO, acidification of the oceans collapsing fisheries and radically changing weather and growth patterns that adversely affect our civilization I say we have a problem and should treat it.
Pride the EPRI that is Electric Power Research Institute released a report that specifically says that the cost and efficiency of using gas to run combined cycle gas turbine generator power plants with Heat Recovery Stean Generators is causing power companies to switch from coal. I have been dealing with Southern Companies for 10 years and Floridia Power & Light and Entergy. All are going to gas because it is cheaper safer and easier to keep running than coal. Yes it is cleaner but that is an added benefit. If coal were cheaper they would still be building coal fired plants. Thay are not they are building gas. Many larger coal fired plants will keep running but the small 100-300Mw units will al be shut down in the next 10 years. You caught me in a sweet spot Pride I have been working with different power companies and types of generation for over 35 years selling them the equipment that runs their plants. I am currently working on a project with 3-200MW gas turbine generators which will be used to drive a plant to extract oil sand in Canada.
Wrong. The new emission standards prohibit this. You are focusing on price, but the price is being dictated by regulation. Regulation restricting new coal plants therefore reduces demand which raises the price. Simple really.
