Clemson Exposed Upset Alert

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  1. LSU_4_LIFE

    LSU_4_LIFE Founding Member

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    No doubt. Especially against Auburn.
     
  2. RamahRising

    RamahRising Jedi Prophet

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    Auburn has 1 prayer against us ...
    monsoon weather ... period ...

    Even in rainy weather we likely truck their arses anyway
     
  3. LSU_4_LIFE

    LSU_4_LIFE Founding Member

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    Here is why I try not to get too caught up in offensive/defensive rankings the 1st part of the season. Take the top 6 teams and here are their rankings total offense and defense ypg:

    Clemson: Offense #15 Defense #6
    Alabama: Offense #2 Defense #33
    Georgia: Offense #12 Defense #7
    LSU: Offense #3 Defense #39
    Ohio State: Offense #48 Defense #1
    Oklahoma: Offense #1 Defense #43

    Then you have the “who have they played” factor. Well here are how their opponents rank:

    Clemson: Played 5 FBS Teams:
    - Offenses: #113 #77 #76 #59 #66
    - Defenses: #70 #34 #123 #89 #58

    Alabama: Played 5 FBS Teams:
    - Offenses: #87 #119 #92 #36 #53
    - Defenses: #52 #95 #79 #84 #87

    Georgia: Played 3 FBS Teams:
    - Offenses: #84 #44 #50
    - Defenses: #121 #119 #49

    LSU: Played 3 FBS Teams:
    - Offenses: #130 #10 #84
    - Defenses: #85 #90 #121

    Ohio State: Played 5 FBS Teams:
    - Offenses: #61 #56 #73 #128 #67
    - Defenses: #105 #18 #55 #111 #16

    Oklahoma: Played 3 FBS Teams
    - Offenses: #49 #112 #72
    - Defenses: #129 #81 #83

    What jumps out? Well, we could jump to conclusions and say Ohio State has an average offense ranked at #48. But, that’s just not true. We could say LSU and Alabama are not elite defensive teams with rankings at #33 and #39. But we know injuries are a factor here and they will improve. How good is Ohio States Defense? Their opponents average offensive ranking is 77 with the best being #56. Ohio States Defense looks pretty damn good to me regardless of the competition.

    Also, you can point out that LSU played the toughest offense at #10 and in turn has the 2nd to worst defense ranking at #39. Or that Ohio State Played the 2 toughest defenses at #16 & #18 and in turn have the worst ranked offense at #48.

    Then, we could be here all day arguing if these rankings mean much because they’re predicated on the opponent of each of these teams opponents.

    For example, do we think Southern Miss has a better offense than Ole Miss? Well, if you ignore their strength of schedule and you go by these rankings they do. Southern Miss ranks at #36 in total offense (best ranked offense Bama has faced) while Ole Miss ranks at #53. But, Ole Miss put up 31 points on 476 yards of offense against Alabama while Southern Miss managed just 7 points on 226 yards.

    Of course stats and rankings matter, but it’s not always apples to apples. And of course you will always have the cause and effect factor. Are LSU’s and OU’s offensive rankings as high as they are because of the bad defenses they have faced? Or are the defense they’ve faced ranked so bad because they got torched by LSU and OU? It’s probably a little bit of both.

    Point is, the scoreboard and the results on the field are all that matter. When looking at rankings alone there are too many factors: Injuries, suspensions, weather, trap games, let down games, tough schedules, home field, etc.
     
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  4. Mezmorizor

    Mezmorizor Founding Member

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    Agreed. I haven't really watched them outside of highlight reels outside of yesterday, and holy smokes. They're great on both sides of the ball. Maybe Wisconsin can control the game enough to get the W, but they're a scary, scary team.

    I realize that they haven't played anyone, but they're actually dominating everybody they play. You can't say that about any other team in the country atm.
     
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  5. uscvball

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    Then why get caught up in poll rankings? You have to start somewhere. Tell me at what point in the season, what weekend exactly, should stat rankings begin to matter? I see complaints about other teams playing cupcakes and that's bad (bama/clemson) but somehow LSU's #1 offense is supposed to mean something? Can't keep having it both ways. Pollsters made that argument yesterday.
     
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    Did someone pass gas?
     
  7. LSU_4_LIFE

    LSU_4_LIFE Founding Member

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    I don’t care about poll rankings either at this point in the season. It’s all for hype and entertainment at this point. It’s very simple, win and you’re in. If at the end of the year 2 teams share the same record, then the committee can review rankings and strength of schedule to make a determination on who the best team is. More than likely this will be based on quality of wins/losses and the eye test more so than total offense/defense.

    I posted a lengthy response above regarding total offense/defense rankings of the top 6 teams and their opponents rankings showing that all the numbers across the board are a bit skewed right now due to the competition (or lack of) in the first few weeks of the season.

    So to answer your question, at no point in the season should anybody get worked up over rankings or polls. None of it matters until the final game is over and the selection committee sits down to review the final poll.

    In my opinion, the eye test is the most important. That’s why we don’t have computers picking our final 4 teams.
     
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  8. RamahRising

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    Yeah yo momma ... And she’s LOUD ...
    They sellin shots at her at 3 for a dollar

    LSU would run Ohio State’s arse outta the stadium ... Similar to that last NC beat down we put on them that crapped out Herbie’s decade back in ... Hey Bueller what year was it ... wink

    It would be a 20+ Point rout at least but any volleyball champ might not know that ...

    P.S. Hey Volleyball champ, what’s your take on that transgender going out for the women’s Olympic Team ...
     
  9. kcal

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    not necessary or funny. try again
     
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  10. RamahRising

    RamahRising Jedi Prophet

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    Enough said ...
    Ohio State gets the cattle prod in a head to Head contest ...

    Put a Star by LSU # 3
    They were #1 but had a bye week essentially meaning LSU is still Number 1 ...

    OSU would have about as much chance standing up to the LSU BLITZKREIG as Oregon or the Best in Pac -10 would ...
     

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