Cindy Sheehan quits Anti-War movement

Bengal Buddy · Jun 3, 2007

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You underestimate me, once again. :yelwink2: You know I can prove it.

Scott Ritter, the chief US WMD inspector stated in 2002, a year before the invasion:
What in the world are you talking about?

I know of no instance of that happening after the war. Even if it were true, then we bomb his facilities and tell him to stop that chit! Shock and Awe works to influence countries to behave--ask Yugoslavia. It was utterly foolish to invade and occupy Iraq. They have nothing we need and it has exposed a superpower weakness to our enemies. This perceived weakness has now emboldened Russia into trying to revive The Cold War. Condi Rice says Russia should drop Cold War mentality

Everyones intelligence did NOT say the same thing, Sourdough. Where do you get these ideas?

Have you read the Senate Report on Pre-War Intelligence on Iraq?

Their first conclusion points to widespread flaws in the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, and attributes those flaws to failure by analysts in the intelligence community:

Most of the major key judgments in the Intelligence Community’s October 2002 NIE, Iraq’s Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction, either overstated, or were not supported by, the underlying intelligence reporting. A series of failures, particularly in analytic trade craft, led to the mischaracterization of the intelligence.
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The fact remains that American, British and Russian intelligence were all saying Iraq had WMD. In addition, virtually every Democrat who is now yelling from their pedestals that Bush misled the nation, believed at the time of the invasion that Iraq had WMDs and approved of the invasion. It is entirely possible that Bush overlooked some intelligence or saw what he wanted to see. I won't argue that. But if he was guilty of that, so was 98% of Congress and the nation.

fanatic · Jun 4, 2007

Bengal Buddy said: ↑

The fact remains that American, British and Russian intelligence were all saying Iraq had WMD. In addition, virtually every Democrat who is now yelling from their pedestals that Bush misled the nation, believed at the time of the invasion that Iraq had WMDs and approved of the invasion. It is entirely possible that Bush overlooked some intelligence or saw what he wanted to see. I won't argue that. But if he was guilty of that, so was 98% of Congress and the nation.
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Even if they did have WMDs, that's not where the immediate focus should've been. N. Korea has and proliferated nuclear technology. Pakistan is a coup away from having nukes in the hands of radical Islamists. Should we invade them too?

red55 · Jun 4, 2007

Bengal Buddy said: ↑

The fact remains that American, British and Russian intelligence were all saying Iraq had WMD. In addition, virtually every Democrat who is now yelling from their pedestals that Bush misled the nation, believed at the time of the invasion that Iraq had WMDs and approved of the invasion. It is entirely possible that Bush overlooked some intelligence or saw what he wanted to see. I won't argue that. But if he was guilty of that, so was 98% of Congress and the nation.
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It was 77% of Congress and less that publicly. Sorry, but you can't absolve Bush by blaming literally everybody else. The obvious and overwhelming fact remains . . . it was his decision and his responsibility as President, nobody elses. Congress did not declare war on Iraq, they gave The President the authority to make war. Congress and the nation went along with their leader with misperceptions based on administration statements concerning 9/11 involvement, WMD's existing, and AL Qaida connections that have proven to be bogus.

Sourdoughman · Jun 4, 2007

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Even if they did have WMDs, that's not where the immediate focus should've been. N. Korea has and proliferated nuclear technology. Pakistan is a coup away from having nukes in the hands of radical Islamists. Should we invade them too?
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Pakistan, yes, should have already for obvious reasons.

fanatic · Jun 4, 2007

Sourdoughman said: ↑

Pakistan, yes, should have already for obvious reasons.
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Can't really argue with that. I would've supported that more than Iraq.

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Cindy Sheehan quits Anti-War movement

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