Christian fundamentalists are not qualified to be judges

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  1. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    What's the name of this thread?
     
  2. saltyone

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    Why, pray tell, should I? You have presented absolutely no evidence that anything I have said is not true. You admit defeat. :hihi:
     
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    I'm not trying to convince you that I am right, just that you are wrong. You will continue to ignore any evidence that is posted anyway.
     
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    Thomas Jefferson:

    I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.
    SIX HISTORIC AMERICANS,
    by John E. Remsburg, letter to William Short


    John Adams:

    The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.
    Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 states:


    Thomas Paine:
    I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible).

    Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible).

    It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible.

    Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and you will have sins in abundance.

    The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty.


    James Madison:

    What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
     
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    In many states at the time of the Constitutional Convention, confessed deists were not allowed to hold public office. Deism was generally held in low esteem, as such laws indicate. Additionally, Deism as practiced at the time of America's founding was far different from what we find in our country today, and it certainly was not atheism.

    New Hampshire

    John Langdon, Congregationalist
    Nicholas Gilman, Congregationalist

    Massachusetts

    Elbridge Gerry, Episcopalian
    Rufus King, Episcopalian
    Caleb Strong, Congregationalist
    Nathaniel Gorham, Congregationalist

    Connecticut

    Roger Sherman, Congregationalist
    William Samuel Johnson, Episcopalian
    Oliver Ellsworth, Congregationalist

    New York

    Alexander Hamilton, Episcopalian
    John Lansing, Dutch Reformed
    Robert Yates, Dutch Reformed

    New Jersey

    William Paterson, Presbyterian
    William Livingston, Presbyterian
    Jonathan Dayton, Episcopalian
    David Brearly, Episcopalian
    William Churchill Houston, Presbyterian

    Pennsylvania

    Benjamin Franklin, Deist
    Robert Morris, Episcopalian
    James Wilson, Episcopalian/Deist
    Gouverneur Morris, Episcopalian
    Thomas Mifflin, Quaker/Lutheran
    George Clymer, Quaker/Episcopalian
    Thomas FitzSimmons, Roman Catholic
    Jared Ingersoll, Presbyterian

    Delaware

    John Dickinson, Quaker/Episcopalian
    George Read, Episcopalian
    Richard Bassett, Methodist
    Gunning Bedford, Presbyterian
    Jacob Broom, Lutheran

    Maryland

    Luther Martin, Episcopalian
    Daniel Carroll, Roman Catholic
    John Francis Mercer, Episcopalian
    James McHenry, Presbyterian
    Daniel of St Thomas Jennifer, Episcopalian

    Virginia

    George Washington, Episcopalian
    James Madison, Episcopalian
    George Mason, Episcopalian
    Edmund Jennings Randolph, Episcopalian
    James Blair, Jr., Episcopalian
    James McClung
    George Wythe, Episcopalian

    North Carolina

    William Richardson Davie, Presbyterian
    Hugh Williamson, Presbyterian/Deist (?)
    William Blount, Presbyterian
    Alexander Martin, Presbyterian/Episcopalian
    Richard Dobbs Spaight, Jr., Episcopalian

    South Carolina

    John Rutledge, Episcopalian
    Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, Episcopalian
    Pierce Butler, Episcopalian
    Charles Pinckney, III, Episcopalian

    Georgia

    Abraham Baldwin, Congregationalist
    William Leigh Pierce, Episcopalian
    William Houstoun, Episcopalian
    William Few, Methodist
     
  6. CParso

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    I did not say they didn't believe in christian principals, and in fact I explicitly stated that they believed in a Christian God.

    Politics is the name of the game. Many voters were Christian, so of course they are going to come off as christian in public. This has nothing to do with their personal beliefs.
     
  7. saltyone

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    Please tell me how this:




    And this:


    Could have possibly came from the same person.
     
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    See above post. It's politics. His deists views weren't getting him any votes, those were just his personal beliefs. Christianity is where the money's at.
     
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    Well...
     
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    No, Christianity is where salvation is at. This is not a game. It is you immortal soul at stake. Salvation is not something to play political games with.
     

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