Christian fundamentalists are not qualified to be judges

Thomas Jefferson even created his own New Testament omitting all of the miracles and things that he didn't think really happened. http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/

 

The interesting thing about history is that people can attempt to rewrite it to suit their beliefs. I don't fault Salty for thinking that the founding fathers were christians, its what we've all been brought up to believe.

 

Lie. Not saying it is your lie, but a lie none the less. I must admit, one of the most of the wall statements I've ever seen. Completely and utterly untrue.

I have heard the argument made for the book of Revelations. To be perfectly honest with you, I can see where they get this from. The book of Revelations is way out there. I have been taught, and believe, that every word of the Bible is the word of God. Who am I to question the word of God? I don't.

 

Care to present facts? MfNGimp just posted a link to a bible that Jefferson rewrote, ommitting things he didn't believe. Does that sound very Christian to you?

 

In compiling what has come to be called "The Jefferson Bible," he sought to separate those ethical teachings from the religious dogma and other supernatural elements that are intermixed in the account provided by the four Gospels. He presented these teachings, along with the essential events of the life of Jesus, in one continuous narrative.



No where in here does it say he didn't believe those things happened. He did not call it the Jefferson Bible. He was using parts of the Bible to illustrate one point. Don't read more into something than is really there.

 

I don't care about this particular thing, so I won't debate it. My question remains, can you provide any documented, non-biased, evidence that says they were christians?

 

Can you produce souces for your off the wall statement. Saying that some teacher said it in class doesn't count. As for Jefferson, again, I ask where it says he didn't believe anything in the Bible. I can take certain verses from the Bible and compile them together in order to prove the point that greed is a sin. This does not mean that the verses I don't use, I don't believe.

 

this is sort of off-topic:

i recently saw a documentary called "the god who wasnt there", which was great. if anyone gets a chance, they should check it out. you can find it on the file trading networks. they have a great section on the history of the bible that i liked and learned a lot about where the bible came from.

the pirate bay has a torrent tracker for it.

 

I agree with your religious views, I was raised in a fundamental Southern Baptist church and am still a fundamentalist. I know a lot of people think that is crazy but whatever. Anyway, Jefferson was certainly not a Christian and when he ran against Adams in 1800 he was portrayed as a Godless heathen.

From the Monticello organization, {QUOTE]Jefferson believed in the existence of a Supreme Being who was the creator and sustainer of the universe and the ultimate ground of being, but this was not the triune deity of orthodox Christianity. He also rejected the idea of the divinity of Christ, but as he writes to William Short on October 31, 1819, he was convinced that the fragmentary teachings of Jesus constituted the "outlines of a system of the most sublime morality which has ever fallen from the lips of man." In correspondence, he sometimes expressed confidence that the whole country would be Unitarian, but he recognized the novelty of his own religious beliefs. On June 25, 1819, he wrote to Ezra Stiles, "I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know."[/QUOTE]

Does this sound like a Christian to you?