Christian fundamentalists are not qualified to be judges

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Rex, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    How do you know?
    I'm offended that you would say such a thing.
    You are wrong, they look like children.
    You can make out their arms and legs and which sex they are.

    My whole point that 3rd trimester abortions are murder.
    That is why they have laws now that when a pregnant woman is killed, they
    are charged with 2 murders.

    Abortion is murder no matter how you try and justify it.
    Murder is against the law of the bible or the land.
    Its kinda like the Blood for Oil slogan was a lie and it shows at the pumps. :thumb:

    No such thing as pro-choice, its pro-life or pro-abortion.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    of course they are children. abortion is obviously murder. liberals cant say that because it sounds mean. i dont care about sounding mean so i fully admit i favor murder.
     
  3. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    So just in general, not in talking about a SC justice, the regular christian is just as crazy and are irrational by nature? Do you hold a job? Drive a car? Have a wife and friends? So everyone who believes in Buddha or Jesus and God is irrational?

    So people who choose to believe in a higher power and have changed their lives for the good from it make them irrational?

    Yeah, you're right, the Christians and other religious people who feed the hungry and help the sick are crazy people. You're right.......all crazy, silly notions.
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    of course, faith is by definition irrational.

    yes. to be rational is to draw conclusions on the world based on reality, not faith.

    yes. stuff is made up whether it makes you a good or bad person. a friendly christian and a murderous muslim, both irrational.

    they arent crazy because they feed the hungry and help the sick. and atheists feed the hungry and help the sick too. that has nothing to do with anything.

    if you have faith, you are irrational. thats all there is to it. you can either be crazy or not crazy. my point to rex is that a religious weirdo is not a new thing in politics or a court. it is everyone.
     
  5. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Yep.
    Some advice: In the future, don't use the word 'you' if you aren't speaking to someone, particularly someone that you've quoted. Remember, it's Ok to pet the cat, but not to squeeze it. Now, go finish your oatmeal.
     
  6. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    Hmmm... Red makes good points - in practice, it doesn't really matter whether they are religious or not as long as they can do seperate there faith from the law & their job, which I think martin basically agreed to. Yet Rex thinks that this person's "blind faith" is a statement of their character, basically making her a bad candidate. I'm inclined to disagree with that because I've found religious fanaticism/irrationality to be a completely seperate psychological thing than the capability to form rational thought. I once believed in Santa Claus - it didn't mean I was stupid & unable to make rational thoughts, just that I was brainwashed.

    Also, Sourdoughman your statement about athiest/pro-choice people seems, to me, to be incredibly ignorant. I know athiests that are pro-life and I know LOTS of christians that are pro-choice.

    LsuCraig, quit being a deuche.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    cparso is right. this goes back to what i call isolation of delusion, or the ability to keep your loony religious craziness confined to religion. for instance you might believe that prayer heals, but that doesnt mean you arent going to the doctor. so even though most people are lunatics, they manage to get by in their day to day activities without resorting to magic as a problem solving technique. they may cast some charms on their kids and splash magic water to baptise them, but they still realize that most things dont involve spellcasting.

    it doesnt bother me all that much that bush is christian, i am used to it, everyone is christian. rex talks as if there is another option.

    this woman may be unfit to be a justice, but i dont think it is because she is religious. hell, a friend of mine had dinner with scalia and apparently that guy is a crazy as anything.

    if you are crazy enough to believe the bible (even literally like some fundamentalists), it doesnt mean you cant be non-crazy when it comes to interpreting the constitution. and if you want an atheist in a position of real power, you will be waiting a long time.
     
  8. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    about 20 years... I'll be 40 by then. I figure that's the prime age for powerful political positions.
     
  9. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    Because I don't care to get into this little conversation too deep, I'll make one point.

    There are not different types of Christians. There is but one Christ, and one Christian. There are different types of services practiced, granted. But we are one Church. A Christian believes the Bible to be the Holy word of God. Every single word is to be taken literally. We are not to interpret the Bible to suit our petty needs. Anyone who says otherwise is not a Christian. We can not pick and choose which parts of the Bible to take serious. We can interpret the Bible to find the true meaning of the word, but we must remember the word is fact.

    There was an Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve were deceived by satan in the form of a serpent. There was a Moses. There was a flood. The flood covered all of the earth. There was an Abraham. Abraham led his people across the Red Sea to escape the pharaoh. The Red Sea was parted by the hand of God. Jesus lived. Jesus died on the cross to deliver us from our sin. Jesus was, and is the son of God.

    One other point. The founders of this country, and the crafters of our constitution were all Christians. The original Supreme Court Justices were all Christians.
     
  10. CParso

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    Careful with that assumption... because, funny thing, it's not true. Generally they were actually Deist, whom believe in a Christian God yet not the bible.

    As far as your belief that no true christian can take the bible to be figurative... Is this a fact? Or just your opinion? I know many christians, probably a majority of people I know actually, that believe parts of the bible are more figurative & not literal.
     

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