Cheney Accidentally Shoots Hunter in Texas

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    what if his friend said "dudes, i am gonna go do whatever, and i will yell before i come back", and then didnt actually alert them when he returned? is that so unlikely? is cheney supposed to magically know where his homeez are, even if they are quietly creeping up on him?

    why are we still drawing conclusions and laying blame on a situation we know nothing about?
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yes, damn it! When you are holding loaded deadly weapons and have companions, you have to KNOW where your companions are. If you don't know, you check again or you MUST hold fire.

    People can get in the line of fire in the field. It happens a lot. Few people are killed because serious hunters take safety seriously. You have to expect the unexpected. There is no magic to it. Shooters have to check all of the time where the rest of the party is standing . . . or you could kill somebody. Cheney shot the old man in the face. Obviously the guy was where he could be seen. Cheney didn't check.

    It was a mistake, . . . not a crime, but a serious judgment error that got a man shot. Responsibility is what I'm talking about, martin.

    On the lighter side . . .
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    lets say you and i go hunting. while we are hunting, i say "red, i am gonna go west towards that lake over there really far away to look for something, and when i come back i will holler as loud as a steam train so you wont shoot me upon my return."

    but i get confused a little bit and i end up circling a really long way around the other side of the hunting party and i accidentally approach you from the wrong direction, without alerting you at all because i am disoriented. cant you see how if i got shot it would be all my fault?

    cheney very well might be to blame. but i think in the interest of being responsible with the truth, we should not draw conclusions about situations we know almost nothing about.

    this article here (from a perfectly respectable source) seems to indicate it is possible that the guy who got shot bears most of the blame:

    "Was Cheney guilty of violating hunting etiquette?

    Possibly—but Whittington almost certainly was. Quail hunters advance on their prey by walking alongside one another. Katharine Armstrong, who owns the land that Cheney was hunting on, says that the rule on her ranch is that hunters must move forward three abreast. The person on the right side should shoot to the right, the person in the center should shoot to the front, and the person to the left should shoot left. Accidents tend to happen when hunters stray from the appropriate shooting zone...

    .....If Whittington left to retrieve a bird, though, he should have announced his whereabouts to the group. It is not clear whether Whittington told his companions he was leaving, but according to Armstrong he did not signal his intent to rejoin the group. If that's the case, Whittington violated a basic rule of hunting safety."

    (from http://www.slate.com/id/2136065/nav/2/)

    so they conclude that "possibly" cheney was to blame. that seems fair considering we didnt see what happened and do'nt really know.
     
  4. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    I can't see why it matters who is to blame, so long as it wasn't on purpose. Cheney is a bad person, and my image of him is extremely negative. This incident isn't going to hurt it.
     
  5. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Least Bush and Cheney didn't run friends and family members (like his daughter) out to the press to deny that it even happened for 6 months and then lie to a Grand Jury about it only to have it proven that it was true....i.e. Clinton.

    The hypocrisy is nauseating.
     
  6. marcmc99

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    The guy had a mild heart attack yesterday due to a pellet that migrated to his heart. He is supposedly doing fine and recovering, but if he had died as a result, I'd guess Cheney could be held responsible in a criminal and civil court if he is found to be negligent. Just my opinion. For that reason, I would not have wanted to speak to anyone or have the White House answer any questions, if I were Cheney, until I had adequate legal counsel and new the guy was going to be ok.

    Also, Cheney is taping an interview with Brit Hume that will air this afternoon on Fox if anyone cares. I don't.
     
  7. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    I realize that. But, come on, what sane person doesn't expect Cheney to walk on this one, should it come to that (which I hope it does not)? Dude's 'protected from up on high, by the prince of darkness,' to quote Dan Hedaya in 'The Usual Suspects.'

    Brit Hume, huh? Bet that's hard-hitting!:rofl:
     
  8. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Who did Clinton shoot?
     
  9. martin

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    vince foster! wake up man!
     
  10. marcmc99

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    You never know about these things. Even OJ, the former Heisman Trophy winner from USC, didn't get a free pass in civil court.:sob:
     

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