Cheney Accidentally Shoots Hunter in Texas

you will notice i didnt defend anyone, please pay attention. for all i know cheney is totally to blame, although that is not the impression i got from the news.

you got me there, i am not a big hunter. my uncle forced me to go rabbit hunting once, it sucked. and i shot some of those clay target things last year in the woods of new jersey.

how can you be so absolute? thats what i was chiding rex about. i am neither defending cheney nor blaming him. my whole point is that we dont know. for all we know, that guy told his pals he was heading the other direction and then came back because he forgot something. we are drawing conclusions about who is to blame in a situation we know almost nothing about.

will it still be "impossible" to defend cheney if the story comes out that the guy who got shot was in a place different than what he told his pals and that he was at fault? isnt that possible? how does everyone seem to know who was at fault at an accident neither saw, nor discussed with the people involced?

 

Maybe a little off the subject but I'm sure glad this lawyer/victim is gonna be okay. He has been involved in litigation with the City of Austin for a long while over some property he owns that the city wants to steal and build a parking garage on. Property rights are fairly sacred in most parts of Texas but not in Austin. I like this guy Whittington cause he seems to be a crusty ole sumbitch who doesn't back down. Good luck to him.

 

it's almost always the shooter's fault, though, there are weird scenarios where it's not. It's sounds to me like it was Cheney's error, he tracked a bird too far, and fired out of his known zone.

if indeed guilty, his punishment should be getting peppered with bird-shot from the same distance JJ

BTW, Driving home from work, i heard ABCorCBS news announce, "Whitehouse CAN't ANSWER why 24hrs went by before....
....i turned off the radio. everytime they do crap like that, it makes me hardpressed to ever vote for a democrat...the simple principle being that i will not do what you, who i think are relatively uneducated and idiots, want...or maybe they're secretly working for the GOP and using reverse physcology? hmmmmmm...

 

Here, Here!!

Unfortunately, I mostly agree with you. But this is what a democracy is all about.

 

From what i've heard on msnbc Cheney went to shoot a quail and the man walked out into the field without announcing himself. Sure Cheney still shot him but it is up to both parties to protect themselves when guns are involved. I'm not really defending Cheney but I think it is irresponsible to not blame the man who walked into the middle of the field between a hunter and his prey without announcing himself.

 

They both are to blame. The victim should have communicated better, and Chaney should have been more aware of his target

 

I don't necessarily think it's quite so partisan. The Bush admin has been tremendously obsessed with secrecy. So naturally, the media pounces on them anytime they follow that tendency. I don't even know what Scott McClelland's job is anymore. Dude just stands there at press conferences and either says 'I haven't checked with so-and-so/I'll have to check with so-and-so/You'll have to check with so-and-so,' or 'We won't answer questions about that at this point.' He did it in this press conference, too. It seems a little absurd, given the relatively small magnitude of this incident as compared to the others ones they've faced.

 

i was furious they took so long to announce it. because it affects me and the rest of the citizens of america so much when the vice president accidentally shoots some random dude in the middle of nowhere.

this story is interesting and fun to hear about, but hardly important. i couldnt give a damn if they never told the public.