Carr Talks Winning More Than Retiring (Talk in Mich. of Lloyd Carr Retirement)

Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by TejasTiger, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. DwayneBowned

    DwayneBowned Founding Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    Messages:
    576
    Likes Received:
    58
    lol sorry man, not to hate, but you could put in ND for UM in that paragraph and you couldn't tell the difference.
     
    1 person likes this.
  2. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2006
    Messages:
    32,750
    Likes Received:
    11,275
    Steve Spurrier, Nick Saban..........come to think about it, Weiss is the only one who's been successful at the pro level and not college. :grin:
     
  3. bitter ND

    bitter ND Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2007
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    45
    I disagree with that on several points:

    Michigan is a football factory with an atrocious graduation rate where its football players, namely its african american players, have an abysmal graduation rate.

    As such, with no concerns if its players can meet the academic standards of the university, UM exploits its players and stockpiles greater amount of football talent, untethered by how well those players do academically. When ND loses, it loses to teams with superior, deeper talent whereas UM loses to teams that it has just as much, if not, more talent. But, with Weis recruiting, that talent gap will soon shriken and ND will start winning those games again.

    UM schedules one or two MAC schools a season to pad up its record. ND plays the service academies to honor a rivalry that goes back decades when teams like Army were among the top teams in the country.

    And, the service academies are actually much tougher opponents than the creampuffs UM schedules. Just look at the way Navy beat the MAC champion 20-0 in that bowl game.

    And, now UM is playing against Div-1AA teams such as Applachia State.
     
  4. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2006
    Messages:
    10,673
    Likes Received:
    7,156
    Shriken? Is that painful? Is it a good thing? Have you been hitting the whiskey?

    And nd treats ALL it's African Americans with such dignity and respect...........like say Ty Willingham.

    The service academies are not considered amongst the elite of college football and habitually scheduling them is doing nothing for the irish program. But I think it's great that Coach Weiss is a trend setter. Not everyone will be able to claim 3 straight Commander In Chief trophies.

    See you in the Fall bitter.
     
  5. bitter ND

    bitter ND Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2007
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    45
    Pot meet kettle. Now, what do SC fans call UCLA's football coach again? Radio?

    And, Coach Willingham was treated with more dignity and respect than he deserved. He preferred to go play golf all day rather than coach or recruit.
     
  6. bitter ND

    bitter ND Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2007
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    45
    Bill Walsh is another coach who's won multiple SB rings, but couldn't find the same success at Stanford. Of course, the academic standards at Stanford certainly posed a barrier that those other coaches didn't have to face. Looking at the lack of football success Stanford has just makes me appreciate all the more what ND has been able to accomplish even though both schools have the same, rigorous academic standards.
     
  7. TejasTiger

    TejasTiger Founding Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    3,184
    Likes Received:
    49
    This article certainly got my attention. LSU almost snagged the father to succeed Cholly Mac, could the son replace an Ann Arbor-bound Miles?

     

Share This Page