"Can Geoengineering Help Slow Global Warming?"

Tiger10 · Aug 20, 2009

but think geoengineering is necessary to combat it. :huh:
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I oppose it.

ok awesome · Aug 20, 2009

islstl said: ↑

Like me, he doesn't believe that the rise in temperature this past century or so is mostly attributable to human activity, but the natural cycles that occur ever since the earth came into being. The fact is the temperature has risen and will continue to rise because we are in that cycle of rising temperatures (as has happened many times before on Earth), so that we must combat it to avoid ecological catastrophies.

It's not hard to understand, really.
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Everyone knows there are cycles. That's elementary.

The problem is that this cycle is happening exponentially faster than every previous one.

I was skeptical about global warming for a long time, but one day I realized that I am not smarter than 3/4 of the worlds scientists.

Look at the Ozone layer problem. Is anyone talking about that anymore? We stopped using the products that caused the problem and now the problem is fixing itself. We can do the same with global warming if everyone gets on board.

shaqazoolu · Aug 20, 2009

Tiger10 said: ↑

I oppose it.
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How can you take a position on anything that is meant to fix something that you claim doesn't exist?

SabanFan · Aug 20, 2009

red55 said: ↑

I can't believe you tossed me this softball. I've actually shot it down twice before. A article from the Oregon Institute for Science and Medicine! Great stuff. Here is what Sourcewatch has to say about the OISM.

This is the Kook (Robinson) that published a bogus report saying that 31,000 scientists were opposed to global warming. It turns out that many on the list were totally bogus (Micheal Fox, Dr, Gerri Halliwell, etc,), most were not scientists (some were actually businesses), and very few were climatologists that could be considered experts on the subject and some of them claimed to no longer support the petition, since it's thesis has been rewritten at least seven times.

This is a much better pitch if only the numbers could survive scientific scrutiny. But it is impossible to tell from this article, since both his numbered references and his footnote references are not present for us to check out. No footnotes and no bibliography. Conveniently we cannot check out his sources.

You see, Mr. Gulachenski is an electrical engineer, not a climatologist and he has published a number of popular articles critical of the IPCC report. He has not yet published any peer-reviewed, substantiated articles in a scientific Journal. So I find his credibility low, although I would like to investigate his sources validity. Challenges to the consensus are scientifically important as long as they are valid.
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You believe your sources. I'll believe mine.

We can do this all day.

red55 · Aug 20, 2009

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You believe your sources. I'll believe mine.
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The discredited ones? Sure thing, Pancho.

Tiger10 · Aug 20, 2009

This is all I have for now.

SabanFan · Aug 20, 2009

red55 said: ↑

The discredited ones? Sure thing, Pancho.
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In your mind, Hopalong.

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