CAM NEWTON / AUBURN PFP INVESTIGATION THREAD

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  1. SyrTiger

    SyrTiger ooo yea thats hot

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    Cecil Newton is an agent, but the NCAA doesn't care.
     
  2. DoctorDave

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    I have not read this entire thread, so I do not know if this has been specifically discussed.

    Cam Newton's first choice of a college was Miss St. If he did not know of his father's dealings, why did he not go there?
     
  3. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Cam said it was because, "the money was too much at Auburn". But he didn't know about the money so go figure that one out.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I don't think so. If Newton had gone to State or if the deal was done with Auburn, then that would be the end of it. The dilemma for the NCAA is that the deal was done with State and Newton is at Auburn. If they can find that a deal existed at Auburn too, then they will be hammered.

    But they are hesitant to hammer Auburn for a deal that was attempted with State. The NCAA is marking time while they try to sort out if money changed hands at Auburn. If they never find it, then Auburn has no issues. If they do find it, then Auburn loses a season and goes on major probation for the 4th time.

    The NCAA can let Newton play and then make Auburn forfeit the games later on if they need to. But if they rule him ineligible and find no evidence, then they have screwed Auburn and can't take it back.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    In the late 80's there was a scandal surrounding Kentucky basketball, something about them putting $1000 in the mail to players, and Jerry Tarkanian had a wonderful quote about the NCAA.



     
  6. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    Common Red ... the FBI already as the evidence of the transaction for Auburn. State is an after thought, and nothing more than a smoke screen the NCAA and the SEC are using to float AU to the MNC.

    - It wasn't the NCAA that figured out the money trail of Aub, unc in Chig, Church in GA. .. it was the FBI.

    - It wasn't the NCAA that captured dialogue on tapped phones about casino ATM cards, slotts, and other perks for AU players ... including Cam .. it was the FBI.

    - The State transaction occurred after the offer by AU. That is why Cecil noted the "money is just too good". The money was already offered, and Cecil was seeing if State would match or beat it. This is the only aspect of this story that came through the SEC and the NCAA .. and is in actuality, a very irrelevant piece of the story when compared to the evidence the FBI accumulated for the indictiments they procurred against some high ranking AU boosters.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Who says? What evidence?

    What motive does the NCAA have for Auburn to the BCS game?

    Then why hasn't anyone been arrested? What federal crime was committed?

    Why aren't people in jail? Why aren't NCAA sanctions being handed down? Tell me that you have more to go on than wild-ass guesses.
     
  8. Texas_Tiger

    Texas_Tiger Tiger Stuck in Aggie Land

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    If this is the case, then it should be a slam dunk for the NCAA. Why then would the NCAA not take action now and avoid the embarrassment of voiding wins, championships, etc?
     
  9. LEGACY TIGER

    LEGACY TIGER Defy Yourself

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    Red he is getting all that stuff from the on TOS. Some took it as the actual FBI investigation documents I guess. I can see how some would do that, it is pretty elaborate and very detailed. Either the information in it actually does have some merit, or someone had a whole bunch of time on their hands and chose to fill it by doing a bunch of research to create the information in the post.


    Now here is something that no one has mentioned yet, but they were talking about it on ESPN radio last nite. What the NCAA has done to this point is make a decision that could in essence prevent AU/Cam from having the MNC and Heisman taken away. Because they have ruled he is eligible to play the rest of the season they have protected those wins. Now if they rule he was ineligible prior to that and they vacate the 12-0 record of wins, and he is ruled ineligible for those 12 games they can still do that. But they have already made a ruling on his eligibility for the SECCG and the MNC game. This way they can punish AU/Cam for that part of the season, but from the point of the ruling forward they are in the clear. Which would protect his Heisman Trophy, because he was eligible at the time he received it and protect the MNC because he was eligible at the time they won it. Also protecting, without any possibility of repercussions any monies won by AU from this point on. From what they were saying, is that because he would be eligible at those times, because a ruling has already been made, that it could possibly not be ruled on again to take the MNC and Heisman away. Granted voters and the Heisman committee might take exception to an 0-12 National Champion/Heisman Winner, but since he is eligible to play in those games they would be AU’s and Cam’s to keep, as well as all the BCS monies. I found this to be very interesting, if true. If this is true then the NCAA and SEC have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind that this is all about the money.

    This is not to say that in the future they couldn’t rule that he was ineligible for the first 12 games and hand down all kinds of sanctions, but it wouldn’t affect the SEC Championship, National Championship, or Heisman.
     
  10. paducahmichael

    paducahmichael Tiger Band Class of '73

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    So, in short, the NCAA is playing CYA?
     

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