Not sure, but if someone made that stuff up they sure did a lot of research and had a whooole bunch of time on their hands. Interesting to say the least. It is going to be interesting to see if this thing actually takes on the life that report indicates it might. Should it, whoever posted that might get either shot or millions for breaking that story line.
I read that article and all 17 pages of comments and links that went with it. From what they are saying in some posts by people who seem to be very knowledgeable about what's happening, the Feds are in the process of building a reco case involving tarp money and bibery. There are problems with goverment money being funneled to all kinds of shaddy deals and cam's problems are a minor sideshow. This goes way up the chain at au. If all this is proven then a lot of people are going to jail. Politicans, judges maybe,and some of the richest most powerful people in Alabama. The sec may have even tried to limit the full knowledge of the depth of this to limit it's impact. This could be huge reaching into the hierarchy of the sec and political power in Alabama. This could get au ejected from the sec. I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets found dead having committed suicide in a parked car(white water clintons). This is the death penality for a great sec university. Frick them and let them die and let the au nation cry
:geaux: Maybe it's just me, but I'm not real big on LSU taking credit for a win they didn't earn on the field. Cam or no Cam. We lost on the field, plain & simple. Additionally, even if AU does get all this stuck up their azz it still wouldn't give LSU another "W" in the win column. Believe Bhelm and others discussed this before in that the NCAA only vacates wins from the record of the team being punished, but losses remain on the records of teams who lose to the guilty party. LSU has lost this year to Auburn no matter what happens with this deal. Now assuming AU gets nailed and LSU wins out and the stars / planets align again, maybe the computers and the human polls will take the AU situation into account and LSU makes the big dance. Who knows. Of course, the other teams ahead of us (Oregon, TCU, Boise) have to lose. And if all that happens, we still have to consider that some of the polls and voters might penalize LSU for the Tennessee game incident. It's a much longer road for LSU to get there this year than even '07, IMO. But what I do know is this. If LSU doesn't take care of business against Old Piss Satuday night, all this talk about MNC games, etc. is just a bunch crap. Nutt & the Rebs are going to pull out all the stops to stick it up LSU's azz and it could definitely happen if the Tigers are looking ahead and buying into some of this NC scenario talk. Personally I don't see that happening and feel like the bad taste of last years game is still fresh in their mouth's. I feel confident CLM and the staff won't have any probs getting the team ready for the Rebs. But even if we take care of business against Nutt & Co., we've got the small task of having to beat R-Kansas in Little Rock and a pretty tough USCe team in Atlanta. Not impossible things to accomplish but there's a long, long way to go yet. Bottom line is there's a lot of football to be played and hurdles to be overcome before LSU can even think about an MNC game. It can happen, but it's a much longer shot for it to happen than either '03 or '07. Right now I just want LSU to beat Ole Miss. :LSU231:
yeah but we lost to a guy who shouldn't have been on the field to begin with. and make no mistake about it, we lost to cam newton, not auburn.
:geaux: I hear ya, but that "L" on our record isn't going anywhere regardless. Agree that Aubie doesn't beat us without Cam. :LSU231:
It's easy to make the connection that this thing, if that report holds any water, that this is much bigger than AU and Cam, this thing could be the entire SEC and even the NCAA.
Wow .... there is a lot of verifiable stuff in there .... and the most interesting to me is related to something I said a long time ago .... "Cecil's Church suddenly Rises from the Dead" with regards to a delapidation charge. .... that can only mean that Cecil's church got renovated ... and revovation takes money .... and those transactions are easily traced. ...... and likely showed up in the FBI investigation of these clowns with the Dog Track, Casino, and the Banking outfit. IMO ... the NCAA already has the hard evidence to declare Cam ineligible, and hence, why they subtly suggested to AU that they consider the matter. However .. the NCAA can't act, as its evidence is part of an ongoing FBI investigation, and the FBI will not allow the NCAA to taint the investigation by Acting on the evidence they have in hand until after that evidence is entered into the books and cleared. ... which could take years. IOW ... AU is going to be allowed to play Cam, win the SEC CG, and the National Title ..... all while the NCAA KNOWS he is ineligible. Years from now when the FBI gives them the OK .. the NCAA will null and void Cams Hiesman, AU NC, and record etc. But Cam will have already milked the benefit of all by then and be making millions in the NFL. [I mean .. what good is a Hiesman Trophy after you've landed the multi-million dollar deal in the pros?] That really sucks for the folks who play by the rules.
Wow. Just wow. That TD thread was amazing. If all of that is true, and it certainly sounds very well put together and plausible, how much will it affect the SEC as a whole? I have no problem seeing Auburn expelled and Slive replaced. Does anyone think that this scandal is big enough to cause actual real change in "the way things are done" in SEC football or will it blow over and go back to business as usual? It really would suck if all this is proven true and an number of Auburn's best players are involved and LSU does end up going undefeated in the rest of the schedule. Tough break. Presuming LSU winning out and Cam being exposed as ineligible before the SECCG, would LSU get any sympathy votes in the polls for that being the only loss? Hmmm.........
