Cam Cameron

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  1. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    blasted? i was asking if you thought losing chavis was a good move. because id never heard you talk ill of him prior.
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No offense is effective without a forward pass threat. Cameron's offense is far more imaginative than Studrawas. But the lack of a passer at quarterback and the presence of a stud running back made LSU one-dimensional.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    tirk is notorious for dual viewpoints himself. He's just pulling your chain.
     
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  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    no i was really asking if he thought chavis was subpar or just defending les blindly. it certainly seems like the latter because id never heard him badmouth chavis that i could recall.

    but yeah, i love and hate les just the same. quite the conundrum. its my fear of commitment.
     
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  5. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    I didn't think it was that creative either, but it worked. I am not one to fix what is not broken and last season was far from broken. This year is an entirely different story but that was decided by lack of experience at critical skill positions. If those players do not improve to 1st or 2nd round talent, there will be little creativity next season...again

    You did not do this, but I find it funny how if one does not see things as overly critical, that person is labeled as a pumper. I am not defending the guy but I do try to aim for the truth.

    Cam Cameron is over paid for his production. He is paid to turn shit into sugar. If things do not get much sweeter next season, I expect he, along with his boss will be searching opportunities elsewhere. I am inclined to believe the offense will improve next year, hell, it could not get much worse but I do believe it will improve. To the satisfaction of Tiger fans...I doubt it. In fact, I doubt it ever will. That's okay, I like a passionate LSU fan. I just don't care for the pricks that want to turn in their fan card over a less than stellar winning season.
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    To be fair it hasn't been 10 years of offensive futility. Really it's been 5. 2009, 2010, im counting 2011, 2012, and 2014. 05-07 there was nothing wrong with the O and even 08, without the pick 6's Jarrett Lee statistically was ok until he got yanked for Voldemort. And we all know about 2013.
     
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  7. LSU Engineer

    LSU Engineer Unnamed Source

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    The thing that pisses me off is there are much more creative ways to be a power running team than how LSU is trying. Cameron is paid a million dollars a year to figure it out. In my opinion he should be fired. A whole year with no offense is unacceptable for his pay. Hey diddle diddle run up the middle. It is who he is and the college game has passed him by. That may work in the NFL where change occurs at a much slower pace because of the athletes available. But not in college there are still plenty of moving parts required for an offense to be successful and even at LSU those parts are filled by guys who will never even sniff the NFL. You must adjust and adapt. Cameron has shown that he does not have the skill to teach at the college level or enough imagination to design a system to be successful. He can only be successfull with NFL talent at every skill position as in 2013. He can say all he wants about exciting future but unless real change is coming he is going to get his Michigan buddy fired.
     
  8. GregLSU

    GregLSU LSUFANS.com

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    I'm also not the 3rd highest paid coordinator in all of CFB.
     
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  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I disagree. This is how I think it's all panned out. It's not Cameron's offense. It's Miles offense, Cameron came in and had a senior qb with 2 stud receivers and tailbacks a plenty. I believe he worked with Mettenberger on his mechanics and reads and he made him a better qb, and he called the plays in an offense that was already constructed. The same thing was attempted this year and you see the results. I think Cameron is now having more influence on the playbook, and the bowl game is evidence to that. If Miles would just step back and let Cam have the offense and allow him to dictate the playbook and what's in it, I think you'll see an improved O, and I believe that's starting to happen.
     
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  10. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    1. game has passed him by? false.

    2. it is who he is. false

    3. change is slower in nfl. false

    4. more moving parts in college. false

    5. shows he does not have the skill to teach college players. false

    6. can only be successful with nfl talent at every skill position. false

    7. he will get les fired. false

    other than that, i completely agree with your assessment.
     
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