CA Supreme Court Upholds Prop 8

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  1. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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  2. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    Absolutely. Heard of the Golden Rule? "Do unto others as you would have done to you, except for queers". Im sure it was also on the original tablets that god gave moses but he broke.
     
  3. USMTiger

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    I'm not sure what you mean here. There are many rights that a married couple have that an unmarried do not.
     
  4. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    it's shaky logic at best to take Luke 6:31 and apply it to an individual's expressed support or lack thereof to a state law prohibiting an act that is considered unlawful by God Himself.
     
  5. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Does the bible say that two sinners shall not raise and care for a child? And is homosexuality worse than other sins?

    Of course, two men or two women can not create a life, but there are many young children up for adoption that I think would be better off with two consistent loving adults rather than the foster care system.
     
  6. USMTiger

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    If you can show us where Jesus spoke out against homosexuality, then you can pull the Christian card (hint: he didn't). Otherwise, I don't think that you are the right person to put words into the mouth of your Lord.

    It always amazes me, as an Atheist, how many times I have to inform "Christians" about the actual teachings of Jesus Christ, instead of the teachings of their Church.
     
  7. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    the bible makes vague references to homosexuality. people that dont like homosexuality assume that all of the vague passages are condemning homosexuality. of course, excepting the ones in the gospel about jesus having a naked follower and having some guy draped all over him.

    90% of the anti-queer stuff in the bible is in the OT, which i would argue is not very relevant to christians. the other 10% is said by paul who, go figure, was the biggest jew of them all.

    it cant be that important if jesus didnt talk about it. if it were so important why wasnt at least one of the guys crucified with jesus a flamer? he could have said im sorry for being gay and then gone to heaven?

    i wish republicans would put as much effort into feeding the poor (didnt jesus mention that) as they do condemning queers.
     
  8. gumborue

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    the answer has something to do about paul being a conduit for god, filled with the hs or something.
     
  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    im with you but the bible actually does kind of refer to homosexuality

    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. " (Leviticus 18:22-23)
    "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. " (Leviticus 20:13)

    the new testament has a more vague verse,
    "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" (Romans 1:26-28)

    what it comes down to is this, you CANNOT mix religion with politics. If you do, then you may as well take the constitution and take a dump on it. Religion to me was a form of control over people, and also a way for people to cope with the fact that they are going to die. The Bible is a good book, especially the old testament, lots of war, and murder, and adultery, hell most of this was done by figures who are heros to christians, which is kind of ironic. i will never be a slave to a god that does not exist, or a god who is hypocritical, and if i burn in hell for it, i only ask that they provide me marshmellows and cigarettes.
     
  10. LSUDeek

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    Your mistake was in thinking that you gave me some knowledge that I didn't previously have.

    Jesus himself said not one jot or tittle would be removed from the law until it was fulfilled. Now, Christ is the fulfillment of the law, but it in no way means that I can go out and freely live outside of it.
     

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