Bush commutes sentences for 2 Border guards

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  1. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    So they did nothing wrong, and felt the need to lie repeatedly lie and cover up the fact that they fired shots? Thier credibility is not very high in this matter. The fact that the "victim" in this case is scum has no bearing on the legality of this shooting. These guys did wrong and were punished for it.

    The prosecution was over zealous, and the sentence was way out of line, but Bush corrected this through the communtation of the sentence.
     
  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Well...yeah. Look what happened when the f'n Immigration authorities found out about it. The knew they'd be tossed under the bus to appease the GD liberal MFers.

    Nothing was corrected. They lost 3 years of their life for peppering the ass of a GD worthless POS.
     
  3. USMTiger

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    They were found guilty in a court of law by 12 Texans, beyond a reasonable doubt, after a 2.5 week trial. One of the agents, Compeon, admitted early on that the smuggler had raised his hands, palms open, to surrender. This was verified by another agent on the scene. Instead of accepting surrender, Compeon decided to instead hit the "wetback" with the butt of his shotgun. In doing so he lost his balance, and the "wetback" ran away. They shot him, and instead of going to apprehend this scummy dangerous threat of a monster, they decided to start picking up spent shells and covering up evidence. During the time spent doing this, the "wetback" was able to eventually get back up and hobble away across the border.

    Border Patrol training does not allow shooting unarmed suspects who are running away. They are peace officers, not judge, jury, and executioner. That is what seperates America from other countries like Mexico. And remember, these guys weren't alone. There were other officers on the scene who were able to assist investigators.

    Why is it that many conservatives, who see nothing wrong with what happened, seem to not respect our laws and the proper use of law enforcement against criminals? You also don't seem to support our criminal justice system who found these guys guilty under a preponderance of overwhelming evidence. Kind of odd for you conservatives to hold a position like this...

    Is your feeling of racism towards "wetbacks" stronger than your conservative principles?
     
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  4. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Because the "gd liberal"mfers made the laws and the justice system only works when we are prosecuting drug dealers, not when we are prosecuting rouge police officers or criminal border agents, those people are too patriotic for the law to be upheld against them.:hihi::hihi:
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    This POS was not a worker seeking to better his life and feed his family. He was a drug smuggler bringing cocaine into the country.

    To Paraphrase Samuel Jackson's character: "DAMN RIGHT I'M GLAD THEY SHOT HIM AND I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL!"

    The feds located the scumbag and convinced him to testify against the agents. After the "incident", but before the trial, "Juan" was caught attempting to smuggle another 700 pounds of coke across the border. Was he prosecuted for that? Hell no. Was the jury told of this. Hell no. Why not? Because it would hurt the Gov'ts case against their own agents.

    USM, rail over the "injustice" until your left wagging tail falls off, but you'll never convince me that this pile of dogsh!t deserves due process.
     
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Those damned liberals out to get everybody. Appeal to paranoia.

    They should have apprehended him and not obstructed the investigation. There is no justice in vigilante justice




    Irrelevant to the facts of the case. He was an un-armed individual and was shot in the back Frank Castle style.



    Imagine that! The US Government does not approve its agents going around and shooting people in the back, and prosecutes the agents who break the law.

    Irrelevant to the facts of the case. Prosecute the Mexican for his crimes and the agents for theirs. There is no link.


    Either we are a nation of laws or a nation of chaos. No one is above the law.

    What do you have against our Constitution.
     
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  7. USMTiger

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    You do know that just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are lefties. There are many other viewpoints than a dogmatic "left vs. right" viewpoint. I'm leftie on things, righty on others. By the way, is playing a steel guitar similar to regular, as far as chords and things go? Never toyed with one, but I can play a mean guitar.

    The pile of dog**** had little to do with the due process here. He was just one of the pieces of evidence This wasn't about him, it was about the behavior of people who we give absolute authority and guns to. I would hope that we as a society would hold these people to a higher standard, for no other reason than upholding the honor of the institution that they serve. If an agent has shown that he doesn't have either the discipline or mental fortitude to use his weapon in a proper fashion, then why should he be allowed to continue using it?

    The injustice in this situation was that the judge had to comply with a mandatory 10 year sentencing guideline that was passed years ago by a majority *Republican* congress. This guideline was in addition to what sentence would be imposed by other charges. So if this didn't exist, they would've gotten 2 and 3 years terms. That's reasonable in my book for shooting a guy, like him or not. Bush did the right thing, but these guys were wayyy far from innocent.
     
  8. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    I agree. So why wasn't the known Drug Dealer arrested and prosecuted? Oh thats right, the criminal (Osvaldo Aldrete Davila) was given immunity. He also filed a $5 million lawsuit against the US government claiming the US violated his civil rights. Please a person in the country illegally committing a number of other crimes should not have that right.
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I didn't say you were a leftie, just that your tail was wagging that way.

    Steel guitars are tuned differently. Mine is an 8 string and the upper neck, for instance, is tuned to A6 (hi-lo, E-C-A-G-E-C-A-G).

    You can't "finger" individual strings so the bar moves up and down and you pluck the 2 or 3 strings that give you the chord you want at the fret you want. I use a thumb pick and finger picks on the index and middle fingers. Frankly, I find it easier than a regular guitar.
     
  10. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    i think you contradicted yourself. selling loads of cocaine in the US most certainly betters his family and puts really good food on the table fast.

    the war on drugs is retarded but i digress. dude was just meeting supply/demand. the fundamentals of everything american.
     

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