Bush commutes Libby's prison sentence

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  1. Indiana Tiger

    Indiana Tiger Founding Member

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    Well, I guess that since no one was found guilty of the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman in the OJ trial, then no crime must have been committed and if anyone had lied about it, it wouldn't have been such a bad thing. Doesn't make a lot of sense does it?

    Make no mistake, in the Plame case a wrong was done. It is wrong to out a covert agent regardless of circumstances, but we will only charge a crime if it can be proved intentional (which is a very high standard to meet). Fitzgerald was in the process of determining if a crime was committed, so no one has been charged. It's Fitzgerald's opinion that Libby's lies have obstructed him in making that determination. It seems nonsensical to me that Scooter's crimes (perjury and obstruction) are less severe because no one has been charged when those crimes are believed to be central to making the decision to charge someone.
     
  2. Bengal Buddy

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    What do you mean no regard for the law. What he did was entirely within the law. Libby's sentence was a joke. What about Armitage who admitted "outing" Plaume? Nothing has happened to him.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    From Wikipedia:The Impeachment of Bill Clinton

    "President Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998, and acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999."
     
  4. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    I am having a problem with my posts. I highlight a section of a post I want to respond to and click on "quote reply," and instead of showing just the highlighted part, the entire post is copied. Apparently no one else is having this problem, so I must me doing something wrong but I don't know what it is. Any suggestions?
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    You omitted his most serious offense: Being a Republican.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The direct parties were not even prosecuted much less absolved!

    Perjuring to a grand jury, lying to the FBI, and obstructing justice have NO RELATION to any other crimes. They are always crimes.

    You are correct, sir. It is more accurate to say he had no regard for justice.

    Damn straight! Cheney, Libby, Rove, and Armatage all leaked Plame to reporters in violation of the Covert Agents Act. Bush promised to find the leakers and punish them. LINK Why didn't that happen?


    Notice the subtile shift . . .
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Try another browser and see if it happens. I use Safari because of its speed and elegance, but it is quirky with certain websites at times, so I shift to Camino or the Fox.
     
  8. Indiana Tiger

    Indiana Tiger Founding Member

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    Considering that they were a republican appointed prosecutor and judge, is self-loathing a universal republican trait?
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Right. So was O.J. Simpson :dis:

    Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) was one of the Republicans to vote for "acquittal". Here's what she said afterward:

    Wow! What a vote of confidence.

    Of course, the Massachusetts Hog impersonator, Teddy the girl killer, put in the way that only he could:

    Like I said, the Senate's intention was not to acquit, but rather to avoid having to remove a sitting President from office.


    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/02/12/impeachment/
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I wouldn't have objected to that, speculative though it is, but what you actually said was "Clinton was not acquitted".

    Just pointing out that he was.
     

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