Bush: Bin Laden had Iraq plan

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  1. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    Yep. That's why the people handed congress back to the dems last Nov. They are doing what you say. They may hand the white house over next year.

    People have other powers, the power to protest, the power of free speech, and yes, even the power to leave. All have been used to good effect. Who got us out of VN, not Nixon for sure, or not without a STRONG push from the people.
     
  2. Bengal Buddy

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    Sorry, but the anti-war movement actually caused the war to go on longer than it should have by tying the hands of government leaders and giving the North Vietnamese the opportunity to win the war politically rather than militarily. Of course, the doomed strategy of Johnson/McNamara was the key factor in the failure of the United States to win in Vietnam. Nixon and Kissenger got us out of Vietnam in a rather disgraceful way, but they got us out. By that time no one cared how we got out just so long as we got out. The cease fire agreement and the resulting fall of Saigon was not one of the United States' better moments. But the anti-war faction had nothing to do with it.
     
  3. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    How did that happen? Nixon had his secret bombing campaign in Laos and Cambodia run out of the white house, he did what he wanted. Johnson put troops in that peaked at over 500,000 men, he did what he wanted (of course people were so against him he could not even stand for re-election).

    The main reason the US was not more aggressive against North VN is that they did not want China to enter the war, as had happened in Korea a decade before. China had unlimited manpower, and we didn't want to redo Korea.
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Poor, poor ignorant hippie.:dis:
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You are absolutely dreaming, Bud! Some of us know better and are prepared to document it. You can't rewrite history here . . . Sourdough will not hear of it.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Typical Karl Rove politics. Attack and ridicule the messinger when you can't answer his statement.

    What a pathetic response. Score zero for SF.
     
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Chill, Red. That was my response to his "Power to the People" rant. The days of marching in the streets and destroying private property in the name of "right" are long gone. It's a tired concept and worthy of ridicule.
    Get a haircut.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    All right, but the beard stays, Man.
     
  9. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    What good is the freedom we fight for if you don't use it?

    We have our freedom and thinking people choose to think about how to use it.
     
  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    And subversive as well. Chicago cops would have played the tom toms on your head.
     

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