Bill Maher raises a fair point

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  1. GiantDuckFan

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    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/6/12/17452624/trump-kim-summit-transcript-press-conference-full-text

    "Thank you, Mr. President. Two questions. First, the man you met today, Kim Jong Un, as you know has killed family members and starved his own people and responsible for the death of Otto Warmbier. Why are you so comfortable calling him very talented?

    >> Well he is very talented. Anybody that takes over a situation like he did at 26 years of age and is able to run it and run it tough. I don’t say he was nice or say anything about it. He ran it, few people at that age. You can take 1 out of 10,000 could not do it".
     
  2. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    Seriously? If you don't know he's moved forward on all this despite resistance I can't help you. You're too far gone and nothing he does would suffice outside of weed. Caca can handle you from here.
     
  3. Kikicaca

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    What was the conversation like when Barrack Hussien Obama went and hung out with the murdering Castro brothers? What did he get from them for America? He got nothing and asked for nothing. Obama also sucked up to Hugo Chavez got nothing and asked for nothing.

    Putin? What did Barrack Hussien Obama mean when he was caught telling Putin "I will have more flexibility when I get re elected". You guys and no one here and no one in the MSM has bothered to ask the anointed one Barrack Hussien Obama what he meant.

    At least Trump is going for something for America and the rest of the world. NOKO will change or get shit hammered and I know it will annoy the shit out of both of you.

    Neither of you have any moral aurthority or leg to stand on to question Trump till you question you savior yes the one and only Barrack Hussien Obama.
     
  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    You didn’t address 1 thing. It’s just as vague and empty as the first post.
     
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  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    He wants to be a dictator. He respects Un and Putin because of their iron grip on their respective countries. Can you imagine the backlash of Obama was talking about 3rd and 4th terms, or pardoning himself?
     
  6. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    It's full of truth. I'm not going to convince you otherwise.
     
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  7. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    Here's a pretty fair assessment thus far.
    BBC News
    Trump's campaign promises - has he delivered on them?
    Donald Trump made a string of promises during his long campaign to be the 45th president of the United States.
    Many of them made headlines - from banning all Muslims entering the US, to building a wall along the border with Mexico.
    So how is he doing?

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    Tax cuts
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    Before election: Trump promised to lower the corporate tax rate and huge tax cuts for working Americans.

    After: The Republican tax plan finally passed in December 2017, and it largely ticks the box for the president although its merits are hotly disputed. He has had to compromise on his pledge to bring corporation tax down from 35% to 15% (it will be 21% instead). And the tax cuts for individuals will expire, although Republicans say future governments will simply renew them. But wealthy Americans are expected to benefit more than poorer ones.

    What is in Republican tax plan?

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    Paris climate deal
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    Before: As a candidate, Mr Trump derided climate change as a hoax concocted by China, and the regulations of Paris as stifling to American growth.

    After: After three months of prevarications behind the closed doors of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the president came down decisively on the side near the exits. Quitting the Paris deal, signed by nearly 200 countries, will take a few years but this is unequivocally a promise kept.Supreme Court nominee
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    Before: "I am looking for judges and have actually picked 20 of them. They'll respect the Second Amendment and what it stands for and what it represents."
    After: He vowed to appoint a conservative justice and he has - Neil Gorsuch. It took a procedural change to Senate rules, but it's a victory nonetheless.


    Bombing IS
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    Before: During a speech in Iowa in November 2015, Mr Trump warned that he would, using an expletive, bomb so-called Islamic State into obliteration.

    After: The president dropped the biggest non-nuclear bomb in the US arsenal on an IS-stronghold in Afghanistan. He also takes credit for accelerating progress in driving IS out of parts of Iraq and Syria.
    Trade deals
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    Before: Mr Trump called Nafta "a disaster" and warned that the TPP "is going to be worse, so we will stop it."

    After: Mr Trump pledged to withdraw from the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). He did in his first few days.

    He also vowed to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Association (Nafta) and, after threatening to pull out, the White House has said that Canada and the US have agreed to talks.

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    Ban on Muslims
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    Before: Mr Trump initially promised to ban all Muslims entering the US - a "total and complete" shutdown should remain until the US authorities "can figure out what's going on".
    But he switched to "extreme vetting" after he became the party's presidential candidate.

    After: As president, he introduced two travel bans which become ensnarled in the courts but the third had more luck. The US Supreme Court ruled President Trump's ban on six mainly Muslim countries can go into full effect, pending legal challenges.
    The decision is a boost for Mr Trump's policy against travellers from Chad, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria and Yemen.

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    Before: Mr Trump said in September 2016 that he would reverse the deal President Barack Obama had struck to reopen diplomatic relations and improve trade.

    After: As president, he told an audience in Miami that he was "cancelling the Obama administration's one-sided deal." But in reality, he has only rolled back certain parts, placing restrictions on travel and business.

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    Obamacare
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    Before: One of Mr Trump's trademark rally pledges was to repeal and replace Obamacare - his predecessor's attempt to extend healthcare to the estimated 15% of the country who are not covered.

    It is widely hated by Republicans, who say the law imposes too many costs on business, with many describing it as a "job killer" and decrying the reforms - officially the Affordable Care Act - as an unwarranted intrusion into the affairs of private businesses and individuals.

    After: The Republican healthcare plan has been unable to pass the Senate, and has been mauled by doctors' groups, hospitals and other parts of the medical industry, mainly because of its deep cuts to Medicaid, the health programme for the poor, and fears that millions would lose insurance.

    But Mr Trump has been able to dismantle parts of the law - the fine for people who did not get health insurance has been eliminated as part of the tax plan. Some fear that may have a spiralling effect on premiums as healthy people choose not to get insured.


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    Moving Israel embassy
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    Before: Mr Trump pledged during his campaign to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, a divided city which both Israelis and Palestinians claim.

    After: In December, he said he formally recognised Jerusalem as Israel's capital, and approved moving the US embassy. It will open in May 2018, to coincide with Israel's 70th anniversary.

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    Troops in Afghanistan
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    Before: Long before he ran for president, Mr Trump posted a number of tweets calling for an end to US involvement in Afghanistan. They were similar in tone to this one from 2013: "Our troops are being killed by the Afghanis we train and we waste billions there. Nonsense! Rebuild the USA."

    But his stance changed during last year's presidential election, when he said US troops would probably have to stay in order to avoid the total collapse of the Afghan government, and to keep a check on neighbouring nuclear-armed Pakistan.

    After: He has committed the US Army to the open-ended conflict, saying his approach will be based on conditions on the ground and will not have time limits. He also said he would get tough on Pakistan, who he criticised for offering "safe havens" to extremists - claims rejected by Pakistan.

    US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis confirmed Mr Trump's strategy in an announcement that the US would send 3,000 additional troops to Afghanistan.

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  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    A border wall paid for by Mexico
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    Before: His vow to build a wall along the US-Mexican border was one of the most controversial of Mr Trump's campaign promises. Mr Trump also insisted that Mexico would pay for it.

    After: Mexico maintains it will never pay for it, and even Mr Trump has conceded that the US will have to pay up front and then seek reimbursement in some way.

    The US Congress is exploring funding options for the wall, but many Republicans will be unhappy about footing a bill which could rise to $21.5bn (£17.2bn), according to a Department of Homeland Security internal report.

    There are also landowners who protest against a "government land grab" - and a lawsuit from an environmental group launched in April. Prototypes are being built but not one brick has been laid of the "big, beautiful wall".


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    Deporting all illegal immigrants
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    Before: Mr Trump repeatedly told his supporters that every single undocumented immigrant - of which there are 11.3 million - "have to go".

    After: As polling day approached, his stance began to soften slightly, then after the election he scaled it back to some two to three million deportations of people who "are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers".

    Setting aside the fact that the number of illegal immigrants with criminal records (including border crossings) is thought to be below a million, the president has failed to deliver on this promise.

    In the fiscal year 2017, deportations were at 211,068 which is lower than they were in the previous year. That is despite a huge jump in arrests since Mr Trump took office. The number of removals peaked in 2012 and has been falling since.
    The future of young undocumented immigrants known as Dreamers hangs in the balance because Mr Trump has cancelled the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) programme, which allows some 700,000 people to remain in the US. The case is now in legal limbo.


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    Ditching Nato

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    Before: Mr Trump repeatedly questioned the military alliance's purpose, calling it "obsolete". One issue that bugged him was whether members were pulling their weight and "paying their bills". In one New York Times interview in July 2016, he even hinted that the US would not come to the aid of a member invaded by Russia.
    China as currency manipulator
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    Torture
     
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  9. Kikicaca

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    Too many facts for Lasalle and Winston doesnt fit there agenda.
     
  10. GiantDuckFan

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    tirk posts probable facts, you just say shit for shits sake.
     
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