We paid down the national debt, of course! The only way to ever pay it is to run some Clintonian surpluses instead of adding to it with more Bushian deficits. Contributing to the debt, you mean. Under Clinton, you were responsibly paying it off. Once upon a time it was the republicans who were fiscally conservative. My how things have changed! Obviously. It's because you are OK with passing this responsibility along to suceeding generations. This selfishness is one of the things that brought down the Roman Empire. Ultimately, they couldn't afford to keep beyond their means and it all collapsed. Listen, if you or I consistently spent more than we earned, year in and year out and accumulated a fantastic debt, we would eventually be unable to pay our interest, be foreclosed upon, leins put on our incomes, and be bankrupted and financially ruined. We don't do that because it would be irresponsible and we would suffer the consequences. Here is the difference between you and me. I'm concerned, nationally and collectively, about the nations debt because i know its going to hurt the nation in time. I may not be here to see it, but I don't want the US to ever be in decline, even after I'm gone. You and martin and George W. Bush are only concerend with the impact it has on you individually, right now. You don't apparently give a rat's ass about what happens to the next generation. martin, I understand--he is the patron saint of egocentricity. You, I'm a little surprised by, being somewhat more pragmatic, but George W. Bush has a bigger responsibility and his failure to safeguard the future of the nation is appalling.
My parents thought I was irresponsible, but not even they compared me to the decadent Romans. That's a first! The truth is that a healthy US economy is what drives the rest of the planet and supports more than half the countries in the world. I'm not worried about anyone knocking on the US's door and trying to collect the debt. But as you have pointed out many times, things only matter when it happens on your watch anyway, so by that logic, whatever bad might happen in the future in relation to the national debt, will not be Bush's fault. It won't have happened on his watch.:hihi: But regardless, you think that only Martin and I are unconcerned with national debt? Check your economic indicators man. Or do you think they don't get effected by long term projections? I may not be egocentric(probably some women would disagree with you on that one) but I just don't see the harm here. I am more concerned with what we are spending our $ on and not that we are spending $. Regardless, we will eventually have a tax-me-to-death democrat to "pay down the debt" by collecting a great deal more of my $ than the government needs. And after the debt is paid off, and there is still a surplus, I am sure he/she won't just come up with more social programs to spend my money on, they will give it back! :hihi::hihi:
No, red, I did read the graph and saw that part. But if history shows anything, he posted that as a slap in the face to Bush, rather than a supporting nod to Clinton. Of course, now that you came in with that, he'll probably say that was his intent, but I don't believe it was.
if i say to future generations, "hey, guess what, you owe 5 trillion dollars", they might be upset. but they would be less upset when they realize they will have a hiigher standard of living than we did, because of all the work we did for them, and the stuff we bought with that money. the countries we liberated and traded with, the bridges we built, the freedom we maintained, the growth of the economy, the wealth created by the lower taxes that contributed to the debt. all you ever needed to know about the national debt is right here: http://web2.iadfw.net/scsr/index.htm
actually Ronald Reagan will go into the books as the greatest of all time, perhaps behind only Lincoln.
Interest It's rather juvenile to insult my graphic choice without even reading my graphic. Why do you assume it's a Bush bashing graphic? I think the graphic is very relavent to the thread topic. It's not a Bush/Clinton graphic. It includes all the recent Presidents and their respective +/-.
:rofl: Do you realize Clinton was a Democrat? Democrats generally SUPPORT low-income programs.... Clinton managed to SUPPORT low-income programs while having a budget SURPLUS.
