You don't have to be coy...I'm a big boy. It was me and I was far from being the only one. But this is 2020, not 2016, and I haven't made any predictions this year. That being said, the trends do not favor him right now. There is a little over 3 months to go before election day and in politics that is an eternity but to be re-elected he will have to reverse the current trends because he is sliding and that isn't an opinion.
but that isn't what you said. You said you watched his statement live and either deliberately lied about what he said or you were confused. See below: then I said: still waiting for an answer
Well, I wasn’t going to get petty, but . . . Kcal: check out your post where you provided the "word for word" transcript. I’ve read over it several times. I have run it through three search engines, and the phrase where Trump states the both sides bit is not in the transcript you provided. Yes it is contained in the article, in the lead in to the transcript, but I have been unable to find it where you have stated it is repeatedly. I think you said word for word.
Here is the FULL transcript that follows the video EXACTLY: I even put in bold for you. BTW, were you a Marine? I can color code it if needed. FYI, these two bold statements were made within a minute of each other. There was no "back-tracking" or any bullshit like that. https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/ Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --" Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name." Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same." Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down -- excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?" Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson." Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue? "So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. "Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group." Reporter: "Sir, I just didn’t understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I just don’t understand what you were saying." Trump: "No, no. There were people in that rally -- and I looked the night before -- if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people -- neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. "But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest -- because, I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this: There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country -- a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country.
Neither. Sorry, thought you were being rhetorical there. Just making the point that Trump is hurting because of his position that there were fine people on both sides. You can provide all the "context" you want. But that is not the takeaway, it is not what the non-base is focusing on. In case you haven’t noticed Trump frequently (normally) goes off script, says what he really thinks then tries to walk that dog back. Some people fall for this, others do not. trump stated "but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. " it’s in the part of the transcript you left off your post. Like it or not, for a number of reasons, that is the takeaway.
You are describing people like you. Petty. Trumps base is not this "petty". That is people on the left. What is funny, is BEFORE he said very fine people on both sides he said this: "and you had some very bad people in that group"
Nope, I was in the Navy. We used to have an expression there, "You’ve got to read the Froms and the Tos. Same goes on forum. I was responding to kcal and the omission in his "word for word" transcript, not to you. And you again miss the point. I was not making any comment other than many people, voters, see ample evidence that Trump has a racist agenda. Someone asked me to support that. I did, referencing his statement about fine people on both sides. ‘If you do not think that statement has hurt him, I.e., cost him votes, it’s beyond my ability to explain further.
