The reason the whole Joe Pa thing is getting big is because the media...They want a story and he's been around A LONG TIME. Everyone thought he was pretty much through and done, and he's done great things with this team and got them thinking they are contenders. It's a good story, but it's just that, a story...
in the polls where voting occurs, LSU is 3, Penn St is 4. Penn St is 3 in BCS because of computers, which have absolutely no love for JoePa or anybody else.
That system gave Oklahoma the opportunity and screwed USC, but LSU was in regardless. It's all about SOS. Most of the teams LSU played are having bad seasons and, unfortunately, the computers are programmed to rank on that basis. The humans are giving us our due. In fact, I think they have us as high as humanly (intended ) possible. We all berated Pete Carroll for not bowing to "the system we all agreed to", so it's a little hypocritical to be complaing about the BCS now.
All the BCS talk is irrelevant. We know the system sucks. Hell, everyone (even the people running it) knows it sucks. But until USC or Texas loses and (more importantly) LSU beats the pigs and the dawgs our ranking doesn't matter. Does it really matter if we are 3rd or 4th when USC and UT are undefeated? No, we go to the sugar bowl either way. There are 2 main problems wih the BCS. First, it largely based on popular opinion polls with no objectivity in them. Second, it is designed to accomodate only 2 teams. If only 2 teams are undefeated or have only 1 loss, it works. However, as we have seen the last few years, when more than 2 teams finish with equally good records all hell breaks loose.
Amen. The rest of the BCS and "media lovefest" arguments are reasonably unimportant. If we get to the Rose then so be it ( and hopefully we have to square off against USC rather than Texas ) , otherwise if all goes well we will take down another SEC championship and another Sugar Bowl.
I have no beef with the makeup of the BCS. It is what was agreed to. And if we are left on the outside of 2 unbeatens, then so be it. We shouldn't have dropped the UT game. And a playoff will be just as controversial. If you seed the top 4, the 5 and 6 are going to cry bias and unfair. If you seed the top 8, you will really have a mess because there are always a bunch of 2 loss teams crowding in at the bottom of the Top 10. Boo-freakin-hoo. The BCS needs to stop tweaking the system every year. Its not perfect, nor will it ever be. Set it up once and go with it. Tweaking it every year because somebody's feelings got hurt is not the solution. Everyone needs to agree to the system and abide by the results. No discussion. Every team that wants an opportunity to play for the BCS Crystal needs to sign a contract, which includes no crying about the result. If they (coaches, players, etc) cry publicly or defame the system, the team faces sanctions like forfeiting some or all of its payout. Best thing that happened to the BCS this season was that LSU lost to UT. If the BCS is faced with another unbeaten SEC team outside looking in, all hell would have broken loose. Not something the BCS would have wanted to deal with, as the SEC officials would have come unglued. Would have been mutiny at its finest hour. My BCS diatribe is now complete.
Not true. There may be whining, but a third undefeated team has much more creedence than the #5 or #9 team. As long as the best teams play it off on the field, who cares about those secondary teams who haven't quite had a great season. A playoff is the best way to do things.
You missed the point. So if there are 3 undefeated teams, and 3-1 loss teams, and you seed the top 4, why are the 5th and 6th ranked 1 loss teams less deserving if they come from strong conferences and have solid SOS? Only because the system says so. From the Coaches Poll: 1 Southern California 11-0 1536 1 2 Texas 10-0 1501 2 3 LSU 9-1 1415 4 4 Penn State 10-1 1344 5 5 Virginia Tech 9-1 1277 6 6 Notre Dame 8-2 1185 7 7 Ohio State 9-2 1137 9 8 Oregon 10-1 1102 10 Why are Penn St and LSU more deserving than Va Tech, ND, Ohio St or Oregon? These are the teams on the outside looking in at a 4-team playoff. There would be plenty of controversy leaving out Va Tech who was a strong #3 for most of the year, ND who if left out, would get even more media love to ensure a top-4 seed the following year, Ohio St. who shared the Big 11, and Oregon whose only loss was to #1 USC (and while we think the Pac-10 is weak, the Left Coast media doesn't see it that way). In rebuttal, who can say that any of these 1-loss teams hasn't had a great season and deserve to be included in a playoff? Edit: I am in favor of a playoff. IMO, I think the seeding will be just as controversial as the BCS CG itself.
There is nothing wrong with the computers they are doing what they are designed to do. They evaluate every team on the same basis. Maybe its the writers and coaches who have it wrong. Who knows. Until there is a playoff we need the computers so settle the close ones.
