Auburn inquiry still going on

Calling Phil Marshall "my counterpart" is frankly perplexing.

While he did start off in the field of journalism, his bias since taking the position at Undercover is clear. It's an Auburn web site. He doesn't have to be unbiased and I don't hold that against him. I would expect that from anyone who worked for a site dedicated to a specific school. It's the nature of the game.

I mentioned nothing about a "letter of notification." And, just like the PLOI, there is no such thing as a "letter of notification." There is a "Notification of Allegations" and I didn't say Auburn had received one of those.

I did say Auburn has received a Letter of Inquiry. If you choose not to believe that PT, read the NCAA's web site. It specifically lays out how investigations are conducted.

This is from NCAA.org.

Gene Chizik himself has said, publicly, the recruitment of Cam Newton and whether something happened with his commitment and playing at Auburn was being investigated.

Do the math. The enforcement staff have been reviewing the situation. Chizik wants them to say the investigation is concluded. The NCAA says they send a NOI when the begin to review the situation.

Mark Emmert has said no such thing. It's not his responsibility or department, and you won't find any NCAA individual commenting on an ongoing investigation. Again, like your earlier comment about Roe Lach making the comment she did, whoever told you that is misleading you.

The only group that has done anything publicly with Newton was the reinstatement committee. And, that decision was based on the information provided to them from Auburn. All of this is out of the reinstatement committee's hands now and in the enforcements department. Who, as pointed out earlier, have declined to comment other than what Roe Lach said during her exchange with Chizik.

It means little if Dooley brought it up or if Chizik brought it up. It's clear that the atmosphere during their exchange was tense, at best. SEC coaches, as mentioned before, have stated such.

I don't quote Lach because she has declined to comment any further on this situation. This is twice you've mentioned NCAA officials stating things that they haven't. Again, I don't know where you are getting your information but you are being misled.

You and I have talked both publicly and privately over the last few years so I feel safe assuming you won't take any offense at this question.

Are you getting your information from the same people that threw the Gadsden stories around a few years ago?

I hope all of this is overblown. I hope that all the stuff I've read and heard about isn't true. Because if it is it's going to put a blight on the Auburn program—and subsequently the SEC—that will last for decades.

 

i guess? :insane:

 

TerryP.... a few comments:
1. I was mistaken about Phil being your counterpart. I was thinking you were an admin on BOL, one of the ESPN 247 sites. Phil iis on AuburnUndercover. I forgot you were on a different board. And no I don't take any offense if you or anyone disagrees in a civil manner. That's one thing that makes message boards interesting.
2. Nothing I've said comes from "sources" other than what I have read in papers or heard on TV from reputable authors.
3. We disagree on several things and there is no need to hash it out on an LSU board. Call it what you like but Auburn has not received ANY kind of official letter from the NCAA since 1996 having to do any an investigation or inquiry. If you have something to prove otherwise please share. Rich McGlynn, Auburn's current compliance official and formerly with the NCAA, said just recently Auburn hasn't had ANY contact with the NCAA about Cam Newton in over six months.
4. I'm not going to research it it, but numerous newpapers reported months ago that Mark Emmert siad the "investigation" of the Auburn/Cam Newton thing was over unless new info came to light. He did not say the whole investigation was over and that is exactly what Ms. Koch said. The Huntsville Times had an interview with her in which she said she did not take any offense to Chizik's question.

If you think the NCAA has a "down pat" process you should read this article by Emmert. Note in it he says the NCAA found NO evidence of wrongdoing by Auburn in the Newton case.
Bottomline----I didn't intend to get into a lengthy discussion her. All I took issue with is the title of this thread, inspired by Ms koch's comments. My point again.......she did not say there was any ongoing investigation involving Auburn. If you want to speculate why the exchange took place, feel free. Just recognize it is your opinion and I have mine.

[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6117101"]NCAA president Mark Emmert pledges transparency in wake of Cam Newton scandal - ESPN[/ame]

 

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  I think you can assume that Auburn fans, like all other SEC fans, are less concerned about secondary violations like those that Taylor has been linked to in the past.
  
  I think it's also safe to assume that the average SEC fan knows far less about Taylor's methods and tactics than they do about his appearance. Unfortunately, that's the environment surrounding big time CFB these days.
  
  For example, it's probably a mistake for any fan to assume that Miles and his staff are all like DJ McCarthy, or that all of Alabama's staff are like Lil' Nicky.
  
  

 

That's true. Miles & his staff are actually employed by the university.

 

Auburn fans should be concerned with the numbers, more than any other SEC school. When you get into Lack of Institutional Control, Erroneous Certification of Compliance, Unethical Conduct, etc. yes there seems to be a problem there. Guess I'm the only one that sees the problem?

My information came from Football Coaches in Tx. (Both College and High School). His "methods and tactics" are not welcome in some parts of TX. This is not me saying this but others that I know and trust.

Maybe its time for a change?:thumb:

 

Taylor is a fantastic recruiter. So many kids give him credit as one of the main reason they signed with Auburn. He is on one hand a rah-rah guy and on the other a serious father figure. Parents love him. I doubt there are many schools who wouldn't hire him in a heartbeat. I have been in his office and listened to him talking to a recruit in Mississippi. He was talking to him like he would talk to his son. The kid later signed with Auburn.
As far as high schools, many HS coaches have their favorite coaches and some they don't like. In Alabam there are some who openly favor Bama or Auburn. And the same goes in Louisianna, like the guy who did everything possible to get Trovon Reed and another kid to go to LSU rather than Auburn.

 

I have no problem with kids that don't want to go to LSU, sometimes it proves to be their loss. Many times its this way. Best of luck to them. You can't get them all. LSU does very well instate and out of state. We will again finish well in recruiting just like past years. We will continue to do well every year in football.

I do know this, the reason TT can't recruit parts of Tx. is he left a few kids out to dry. Those parents don't love him, same with the coaches in that area.

Like I said, Lack of Institutional Control, Erroneous Certification of Compliance, Unethical Conduct, etc. these are things not to be proud of and should be addressed. To have the most of these type things in the SEC, shows problems within the department. There biggest problems are from within, TT is only a small part of this.

 

It's an Auburn thread that happens to be on an LSU forum. It is a better place to discuss it because there aren't any Auburn fans who want to turn it into a smack talk convention sans your little jabs at Bama.

I'll leave some of your assertions at this. You've said the NCAA has said a few things, yet I've seen nothing that supports what you have stated has happened. I've even gone to the point of talking to several of my company's sports writers and producers at our TV and radio stations, and asked them if I've missed something. To a person they've not seen anything like that either.

I've done research on my own to find something along those lines and I can't find it. Considering how many outlets we have under our umbrella at work...if I can't find it and no one has heard anything like what you've stated it does leave me suspicious as to its veracity.

"If you have something to prove otherwise please share." I don't know how to prove it any further than showing you where the NCAA states in their bylaws they send a LOI when they begin looking at a situation. I've linked those rules earlier in this thread. What more can I do other than take their own rules and logically point out the process they've published?