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  1. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    Only when the extremely vocal minority consisting of you, Mystikalilusion, crawfish, and rex post inflammatories.
     
  2. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    So then you define inflammatories as opinions and analysis that differ from the majority? Excuse me, but I'm not one to get on here and merely dole out unfounded insults at everyone on the other side. In fact, all of that sort of activity seems to emanate from the right. I've been told that, because I am not a republican, I am trying to destroy America, I hate God and religion, I encourage premarital sex, I am anti-semetic, and that my views are nothing more than conspiracy theories. Never have I applied such foolish claims to my opponets.

    Inflammatories? I think not. Most of you people are scared to death of alternate viewpoints because you lack the ability to adequately justify your own in the face of logical opposition...
     
  3. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    Maybe painting you with that brush was a mistake. Search for all posts by Rex, and you'll see what I mean.

    Can you answer any of those in the negative (other than of course destroying America which anyone would deny?)

    Hardly. Most of us don't feel the need to engage in political jabber on this board. Personally, I find topics of faith much more important and engaging topics. We have an immortal soul, after all, and its destination is much more important than the 70 short years on this planet.
     
  4. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Um, yes. Thank you, very much. Those are all completely asinine generalizations, and anyone who buys into them is brainwashed and a detriment to their country.

    Hate God and religion? Well, I worship God, so how does that fit the bill? I hate when people try to impose their religion on others' lives, but I don't hate religion as a whole.

    I don't encourage anyone to do anything in their private lives. If someone wants to have premarital sex, fine with me. If they want to abstain, fine with me. But I try not to make people's personal lives my business, unlike the Bush administration.

    Anti-semetic? I'm still trying to figure out where this assertion came from. It may just be the stupidest of them all, and that says a lot. Better not tell my jewish friends that I am anti-semetic. Let's get something clear, I'm not anti- any religion. I, unlike others on this board, do not generalize people based on their beliefs.

    Conspiracy theories? The assessment could only come from someone who hasn't been exposed to a real conspiracy theorist.

    Are you kidding me? If by 'don't feel the need to engage in' you mean 'defend our views with emotion and severely misguided generalizations', then sure. Is that why almost everday, someone such as yourself gives me 'red' points, not because I acted offensively, abusively, or distastefully, but because you don't agree with me? That's just pathetic. Not that I give a rat's as$ about that little rep system anyway. How does it benefit anyone anyway? I just find it quite amusing, and a reinforcement of how polarized your minds are, that you feel the need to do that.

    Ok, then. I have no problem with that. I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic schools for 10 years. Now, I'm not expert on religion or Christianity like some of you may be. But I DO know that a fundamental value of Christianity is that you simply do not condemn or judge others. The irony in that is when the ones who claim to be the most devout are the most judgemental and insulting. Go figure...
     
  5. red55

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    Inflammatory posts come from the conservatives around here too, amigo. FightinTIGER is as inflammatory as they get. JS and Tirk aren't shy about getting vocal either. Even SabanFan sometimes baits the local liberalistas.

    This is a forum for political discussion, for heaven's sake. I don't understand why some people are surprised to find there is another side to any political issue. And then get upset if some opponent pokes holes in their favorite cause. Yes, a few posters are more strident than they need to be, but such fellows exist on both sides of the issue.

    Indeed, Rex often pulls conservative chains to elicit a hot response, but Chaos' main offense has been to be articulate and persistent in pointing out holes in peoples' logic. What else are we in Free Speech Alley for? Not to just slap each other on the back and brook no dissent.
     
  6. LSUDeek

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    Fine. I lumped you in with those who actually are most of those generalizations. Forgive my oversight.

    People give me red all of the time because I espouse opposing viewpoints, such as "I won't go see a product on the field that sucks" and "John Brady needs to be fired, and now", and "The loss of Ross Neltner is bad and should be blamed on Brady". Get over it.
     
  7. LSUDeek

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    None of the above start left-baiting threads.

    OK, but don't whine (not you, in general) about negative rep points when you receive them.
     
  8. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    If you had been paying attention, you would know that I do not care about the 'rep' system. It seems kind of silly, to me. Do you win something if you get the most? People should not be more likely to agree with you or respect your opinion because of some little green dots by your name. If they're that weak-minded, they have no business on a public forum to begin with. There is simply nothing to get over, kiddo. I just used it as an illustration of how much some of you just cannot stand the fact that others think differently than yourselves. And personally, I never use what others do or don't do as a pardigm for how I act.
     
  9. LSUDeek

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    Then you wouldn't call me pathetic. Others take the same attitudes, by whining and complaining then saying "I don't care about the rep system".
    In fact, if they didn't care, there wouldn't be two words about it in their posts.

    You have the order wrong. Green dots indicate that people agree with and respect your past expressed opinions, not that everyone should agree with everything you will say in the future.

    Can't stand? I give you negative rep points because I don't agree with much of the things you say, and infact think some of them are ludicrous to the point of laughter. I however will defend to the death your right to make such points.

    Congratulations.
     
  10. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    I didn't call you pathetic, just something that you did.

    If they cared about illustrating what some do to try and 'bring down' others there would be.

    So then what good is a reputation? A reputation is an image or disposition that is known about an individual which other people often use as a tool by which to judge their subsequent actions. The term 'reputation' seems to be fundamentally misapplied, if what you say is the case. It should be called the 'agreement level'. :dis:

    That's just it. If you believe in the 'rep' system (i.e. you hold others comments in comparison with their green dots), it's silly to try and degrade others merely on the basis that you don't agree with them. Yes, I have given both red & green to people around here. Usually, it's just a way to let them know that I thought what they posted was funny or accurate. If it's red, then it's because the person acted like an as$, not solely because I disagree with them. By your logic, the only people that you would consider 'well-reputed' are those just like yourself. That's no way to go through life.
     

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