Arguments For Govt. Insurance Plan?

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  1. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Or I will be paying for their entitlements my whole life.

    Poor SF you still stuck with AIG?
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You think I'm on Medicaid? :lol:
     
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    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    I don't think remember.. ;)
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What freeloaders? Most of the uninsured people in this country are working people who don't get company insurance and can't afford private insurance. Self-employed people or people between jobs with no benefits. Or students living on the edge of poverty. Or widows not yet eligible for Medicare. And children of all of the above.

    You'd rather just keep the Charity hospitals that you are already paying for? Talk about socialized medicine. :dis:
     
  5. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    ok, no such thing for a free lunch for those that can pay.

    i want to pay for health care for the poor, i think the country should, and i will vote that way.
     
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    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Couldn't you make the case this is why people donate to charity and foundations to help those in need. I'm still unsure why this is a govt function? A right to health care? Next thing I'm going to hear is a person has a right to eat at McDonalds because they are working people.
     
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    Like I said there needs to be change in health care, I'm for it even radical change. However if you think this country isn't absolutely overrun by freeloaders you have worse vision than Stevie Wonder. You can't ask working families that are barely getting by to pay more taxes to support more free lunch until you cut more waste and get the freeloaders to start carrying at least some of the load. Families living for generations entirely on handouts has to end. Freeloaders are dragging this country down. Some political groups encourage and even promote freeloading and handouts as a way to gain their political power. Many in this country truly need a hand and I'm all for helping them. Millions simply rather stay at home watching Oprah and drinking a 40oz than go to work. It has to stop, sooner or later it just has to stop.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    In an ideal world there are always angel choirs, elysian fields, and free lunch. But I'm a pragmatist, not an idealist.
     
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    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    That isn't an ideal world because that does happen. Now we are just going to tax those that donate large amounts more and get rid of their deductions. Now that sounds like great idea ehh..
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I ask again, who are these freeloaders? I don't advocate that we give health care to foreign nationals other than emergency room trauma. Illegal aliens need to go home or buy insurance. The poor people "watching Oprah", too lazy to work, etc. are fewer than you imagine. Welfare reform has gotten them most of them working within three years. Minimum wage maybe and unable to buy insurance, but they are working. The only one that are really freeloaders are the well, . . . freeloaders. The street people, the homeless, the bums. They don't even seek medical care very often and there is little we can do for people who have no hope or ambition. But there aren't that many of them.

    The arrogance of the middle class is that we forget that most of the poor are working poor.
     

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