Are Muslim extremists hypocrites?

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  1. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Much obliged.:thumb:

    And whaddya know, I like this statement f yours a lot:

    The wealthy, powerful upper classes preach this stuff about the west to largely poor, uneducated masses.

    I think this is very important when discussing their hypocrisy. OBL is filthy, stinking rich and very intelligent/cunning. So he brainwashes poor, uneducated men into believing that WE are bad because of our economic influence. The whole thing is an anomaly.
     
  2. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Again, what a Friday..........I positively agree. This isn't as fun though. But that's exactly right.
     
  3. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Yea, that's why the Muslim's themselves will for the vast amount, have to fix their own mess. If they don't, the following administrations will have to take measures that will make Iraq look like Grenada. It'll have to be much larger.

    I told my wife the other night that I don't get when the military says that many of these insurgents are pouring in from Syria. OK, obviously something is going on that we can stop them from coming in (I'd like to ask Rumsfeld that). If we can't then we need to have a long talk with somebody in Syria about whipping their a$$e$ too. Start scaring the hell out of these countries. I don't want to invade them but saying we will and actually doing it are two different things since our move on Iraq. Yemen wouldn't be scared?

    Problem is, Yemen can't do anything to stop their own people.......they may fear themselves being taken over. Ah, who knows.....it's Friday.
     
  4. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Whew, good luck with that. I've never seen one person dance around so many questions and begin interviewing themselves so much in my life!

    Can we stop every person from going into every place we'd like them to stay out of in the world? The answer is 'no.' :hihi: :hihi:
     
  5. Frogleg

    Frogleg Registered Best

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    But it appears that well-educated muslims who have been "submersed" in western culture also have partaken in the lunacy. They have been suicide-bombers too, so i think there is a bit more to it.

    Other peoples have abandoned their cultures in favor of ours, they came skipping...so what really makes these muslims do what they do?

    I think their religion is systemically flawed and the culture derived from it. Their culture/religion inherently breeds these lunatics, imo, so then, what is the solution?
     
  6. goldengirlfan

    goldengirlfan simple man

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    Convert 'em all to Baptists. :hihi:
     
  7. mcmikel

    mcmikel Founding Member

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    Islamic Beliefs Consistent With and Endorse Terrorism


    “In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...”



    The Islamic faith adopts the idea that immoral behavior, in the eyes of a Christian, is acceptable and consistent with teaching of the Koran. Moses, the murderer of an Egyptian, and David, the adulterer and murderer, are presented as Holy Muslim Prophets and in keeping with the lifestyle of Muhammad, a murderer and pedophile. The Islamic faith rejects the repentant and confessional actions of David to Nathan and Moses to the people of Israel and God. The Koran’s emphatic endorsement of murder of disbelievers is plainly stated in 2:190, :193. The book that should be learned by heart of Muhammad’s followers is direct with its position as to acceptable actions of “the Holy”. Indeed, is this the path of a moral and peaceful religion?



    From this basic tenant, actions of September 11 in New York, May 11 in Madrid, July 7 in London, public murders in Amsterdam of critics, the slaughter in the Sudan, the persecution of Christian churches in Southeast and Southwest Asia, and other, numerous acts of war against Christ spring forth. These actions are justified in passages 4:89 and 5:51 that urge followers “...you should disbelieve as they disbelieve ....seize them and kill them wherever you find them...” and “...do not take Jews and Christians for friends... surely Allah does not guide them”. It is in plain sight: the Islamic faith teaches that killing of non-believers is deemed worth and holy, as in the ways of Moses and David, the murderers. Is there any doubt these actions are not consistent with teachings in the Koran?



    “When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you; therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore, strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” (Koran 8:12) is justification for the beheading of kidnapped “infidels” by Jihadists carrying out their faith command. This passage is yet another example in keeping with the Islamic faith teachings of how to deal with non-believers and a justification for current headline grabbing actions.

    The Koran continues in 9:5 to exhort followers to “... ambush and slay, take captive non-believers.” Is this not Islam in action today? Chapter 9:29 urges the jihad, the fight against non-believers until they (non-believers) “... acknowledge superiority and are in a state of subjection”. The goals of the Islamic faith are clearly stated. The real question is how to deal with Islam in our world.



    Christians acknowledge that mankind is pragmatic and worldly since the Fall. The assumption that “cafeteria Muslims”, those unfamiliar with or those who reject portions of the Koran dealing with the destruction of non-believers, are the majority of their population. These Muslims attempt to function in a pluralistic society for the betterment of themselves, their families, and their communities. In order to successfully achieve these goals, elements of the Koran are discarded in the fashion many Christians today handle their faith. To “true believers”, these Muslims fall under the judgments of non-believers and thus are subjected to bombings, beheadings, and murders spelled out in the Koran.



    Almost 500 years ago, Luther pointed to the major difference between Christians and Muslims in the teaching of the faith. Islamic students learning their religion were lauded over by a teacher wielding a sword; whereas Christian students were shown the saving and forgiving power of the Cross. From this, our differences grow; rather than slaughter the non-believer, we offer up Christ’s Suffering and Blood as the way to eternal salvation. Luther urges us to follow the Psalmist words “The Lord is... my helper. I will look in triumph on my enemies... The Lord is with me; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?” (Psalm 118:6, :7).



    The Koran is plain is its endorsement of violence against those deemed as non-believers. The actions of Islamic extremists are in fact, not extreme when taken in context of the teachings of Muhammad and the Koran. “In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...”
     

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