AOL CEO: 'Obamacare Is an Additional $7.1 Million Expense For Us'

I still don't see why just dumping them all on Medicaid solves the problem.

 

So we took a major chunk of the economy that had parts that needed fixing. But instead of fixing those parts we turned it on its head and reinvented the whole thing. And then we are going to wait 5 years to see if it worked.

And you think that's smart policy.

 

Problem is that Obamacare did not alter the status quo. It doubled down on it, and pushed lots of additional risk into the equation. The end result is everyone pays a lot more, and the cost drivers still haven't been addressed.

 

I agree we don't know what the final 'reality' of Obamacare will be. But we can be sure that no matter what the reality there will some that claim it’s the greatest thing to ever happen to America and some the exact opposite.

We are in agreement with everything in your second paragraph except the last sentence. I agree with your description of the environment, but I think that’s a reason for small steps.

With respect to the last paragraph I don't know anyone moderately intelligent who wanted to do nothing. And I have certainly never argued for that.

I do disagree with the reason for the immediacy. And I believe it’s the same reason we ended up with the big gulp rather than small bites. With the House, Senate, and White House in their grasp the Dems saw this as their best chance to ram through something they have tried to pass for decades. And when they saw the country not falling in line, and Kennedy’s seat going to someone who campaigned against them; they panicked. As a result they forced through the massive bill.
This is where we have disagreed a lot before. I believe a President with average to above average leadership abilities could have done that in small bites with the opposition participating in some way.

 

So just because it was similar to the follies that happened under Bush & the Rs it is ok? Bad legislation passed in a ultra partisan environment has shown to produce bad law and bad result. Few dispute the legality of the act, many question the wisdom, the form and the result.

For example here is another delay in the implementation just published, http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...e6b344-9279-11e3-84e1-27626c5ef5fb_story.html

Red you have said many times the AHCA was rushed and too big a bite to take at once, yet you seem to have faith that all will be fine in the end. Doesn't the way the implementation as it has been done so far give you pause? What beside faith shows that this will end well?

 

Winston, I actually went back through the thread looking for citations but could find none. My point is that the "issues" that many have pointed to have been found to be dead ends once they are further pursued. I've also said all along that I feel certain there will be parts of the law that will require revision, but it is a fact that the law has not been in effect long enough to accurately determine what does and does not work. No piece of legislation this large is ever perfect so I am under no illusions, however I also can easily spot when some one is spitting venom without having chased down the facts and the truth is that it is impossible at the point to know the faults and perks of the law. My statement from your post that you highlighted was a bit facetious because I was asking you for information that I know you cannot provide yet because it doesn't exist. In a year or two we will have a much better perspective on the law and consensus will grow rather quickly around what needs to be changed and what is good and needs to stay. Right now all we have is conjecture and political mud slinging.

what's the difference in Red and I calling you guys right wingers and you guys calling us raving liberals? nothing.