Anyone Watch GA Southern Clemson 2018

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Will LSU cover the 25 Point spread vs GSU?

Poll closed Aug 30, 2019.
  1. A) Ramah right ... LSU rolls by 40+

    15.8%
  2. B) LSU covers, winning by 35 or more

    5.3%
  3. C) LSU covers, winning by 26 or more

    31.6%
  4. D) LSU fails to cover, winning by 14 or more

    36.8%
  5. E) LSU WINS A NAIL BITER

    5.3%
  6. F) LSU loses sending forum Turdburglars into a frenzy

    5.3%
  1. RamahRising

    RamahRising Jedi Prophet

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    Clemson won handily ... 38-7

    Expect LSU to do much better (40+)
    GA Southern had:
    43 rushes for 80 yards
    3/9 passing for 60 yards (long 40)
    140 yards total offense

    Clemson
    21/31 for 286
    47 rushes for 309
    595 yards total offense

    The LSU bar is 600 yards

    Line dropping from -30 (weeks ago) to -25.5 for our Season Opener ... We are under the Vegas radar again early in the season

    http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/

    Watching the game you felt pity for that poor GSU QB (Werts) getting mauled but they stuck to their 80%+ (83% runs) Rushing Plan and never quit ... 3 and out after 3 and out ... Going right at Clemson interior line

    Game Highlights:
    1. After one quarter of play ... 0-0
    GSU hung tough in first quarter holding scoreless with two early turnovers
    2. Trevor Lawrence came in and took the Clemson QB job, Sending Bryant to Mizzou this year in the transfer portal ...

    One later Clemson turnover and a single 40 yard pass by the GSU backup QB lead to a cheap score ... GSU is hapless but could play LSU tough for a quarter if LSU comes out playing 10-thumb football early ... LSU opens with a nice drive and 7 points and it will likely be a 50+ Point game.

    GSU total offense may be 125-150 yards
    Final Prediction: 40+ Point Rout ...

    LSU 52 GSU 3

    Early Season Ramah always right Vegas always wrong ... 2019 same as 2018
    Make your $$$ early Give those 25.5 pts
     
  2. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    How fair of a comparison is it to look at Clemson and use their game against GSU as an indicator for the LSU game? I'm thinking it's a stretch. Last year, as one example, Clemson played GSU and GT in back to back weeks--both option teams. They have played GT every year for how long?

    How long has it been since LSU has faced a triple option attack? How many over the last decade?

    You may be right. I'm not taking LSU (and I'm getting -27) because it's an unknown how much time is going to be spent on GSU versus the game with Texas. Mentally, that's a tough task for any football team.
     
  3. RamahRising

    RamahRising Jedi Prophet

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    Good points but what other comparisons or indicators can you use ...

    GSU will just keep running at us for 60 mins
    Clemson held them to 80 yards ...

    You can call it a triple option but 83% rushing is a dead giveaway as to their game

    You’re Dave Aranda, you likely don’t waste a ton of time on blitz schemes ... We likely won’t see the Cheetah or Green Team packages too much ...
     
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    We play them every year and beat them most. Last year was an aberration. They took out our QB on the first series with a hit that would have gotten Devin White suspended for multiple games. The key is disrupting the flow of their triple option. Quick, fast dominating defensive penetration. Can't lay back and react. Get off the ball break up the play before it develops. LSU has the studs to do this. On D, they are usually pretty good against the run. Passing the ball on offense helps and opens up the run some. They like to do one thing on offense. Take that away and they can't cope.
    Stomp a mudhole in them and break their spirit!
     
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  5. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    That's pretty much the point, Ramah. There are no other comparisons or indicators you can use when facing an option team.
    That's true with any offense. To me, it's a lot like teams defending the RPO in that it's quick reads in both. It makes it more difficult to disrupt. I look at it similarly to progression reads with QB's except here it's making reads with a matter of two, two and a half seconds.

    There is one small benefit seen today we didn't see a few years ago and that's the beginning of officials cracking down on chop blocks. It's hard to maintain focus for defenders when you're always thinking about "my knees."
     
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    tzanghi Founding Member

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    10 bucks Jacoby Stevens takes an option pitch to the house. Any takers?
     
  7. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    A staple of the spread offensive scheme... :D
     
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    This is an amazing stat from your second link.

    Quarterback Shai Werts (69-of-116, 987 yards passing) did not throw an interception in 13 games played. He was the only starting FBS quarterback to avoid throwing a pick in 2018. On the ground, GS lost just five fumbles despite racking up 643 carries as a team.

    Have you ever watched an option offense that runs out of the pistol? Innovative, along the same lines as what Meyer did with the Wing-T approach.
     
  10. tzanghi

    tzanghi Founding Member

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    I have. And I’ve watched Georgia Southern clips. They throw a lot of pitches on option runs.
     

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