Ok, looks like I might go to the dark side and try and do a turkey without using oil. Interested in ideas from those that have done this to include even your homemade injection recipe!!!! You can email if you want at [email protected] Thanks a ton. I got best red beans and rice recipe of all time off this group several years ago!!!! Props to Tiger Exile for the red beans recipe!!! It has "spread" amongst the "people"!