Anyone still believe in the merit of Affirmative Action?

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  1. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    so if you're so hellbent on improving the inequities you want to fix, stop wasting your time here typing when you could be out actually doing something I mentioned above. Plenty of people like to solve the world's problems at their keyboard with no true intent to really make a difference.
     
  2. M.O.M

    M.O.M Founding Member

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    But wouldn't you just be spending more money that would go into the pockets of bad teachers and administrators?
    I think you have to get to the root of the problem, and its not just the schools, they get the brunt of the criticism, some deserved, some not.
     
  3. LOTTERY

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    No, the system should get the criticisim b/c those teachers and administrators shouldn't be there in the first place. I mean more funding to attract the better teachers and obtain better technology and facilities. If you start from Kindergarten, sure their will be some you can't help, but there will be a significant difference.
     
  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    no title I addresses not just the schools but the systems in place: teachers and their administrations.


    here's an excerpt:

    The purpose of this title is to ensure that all children have a fair, equal, and significant opportunity to obtain a high-quality education and reach, at a minimum, proficiency on challenging State academic achievement standards and state academic assessments. This purpose can be accomplished by —
    (1) ensuring that high-quality academic assessments, accountability systems, teacher preparation and training, curriculum, and instructional materials are aligned with challenging State academic standards so that students, teachers, parents, and administrators can measure progress against common expectations for student academic achievement;
    (2) meeting the educational needs of low-achieving children in our Nation's highest-poverty schools, limited English proficient children, migratory children, children with disabilities, Indian children, neglected or delinquent children, and young children in need of reading assistance;
    (3) closing the achievement gap between high- and low-performing children, especially the achievement gaps between minority and nonminority students, and between disadvantaged children and their more advantaged peers;
    (4) holding schools, local educational agencies, and States accountable for improving the academic achievement of all students, and identifying and turning around low-performing schools that have failed to provide a high-quality education to their students, while providing alternatives to students in such schools to enable the students to receive a high-quality education;
    (5) distributing and targeting resources sufficiently to make a difference to local educational agencies and schools where needs are greatest;
    (6) improving and strengthening accountability, teaching, and learning by using State assessment systems designed to ensure that students are meeting challenging State academic achievement and content standards and increasing achievement overall, but especially for the disadvantaged;
    (7) providing greater decisionmaking authority and flexibility to schools and teachers in exchange for greater responsibility for student performance;
    (8) providing children an enriched and accelerated educational program, including the use of schoolwide programs or additional services that increase the amount and quality of instructional time;
    (9) promoting schoolwide reform and ensuring the access of children to effective, scientifically based instructional strategies and challenging academic content;
    (10) significantly elevating the quality of instruction by providing staff in participating schools with substantial opportunities for professional development;
    (11) coordinating services under all parts of this title with each other, with other educational services, and, to the extent feasible, with other agencies providing services to youth, children, and families; and
    (12) affording parents substantial and meaningful opportunities to participate in the education of their children.



    1) $13,500,000,000 for fiscal year 2002;
    (2) $16,000,000,000 for fiscal year 2003;
    (3) $18,500,000,000 for fiscal year 2004;
    (4) $20,500,000,000 for fiscal year 2005;
    (5) $22,750,000,000 for fiscal year 2006;
    (6) $25,000,000,000 for fiscal year 2007.
     
  5. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    highlighted the indian children part. kinda peculiar.
     
  6. LOTTERY

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    Add those numbers and you will see it's not even close to the amount we spend on other things, such as the war. 20 billion might sound like alot until you see how many schools exist in the US. That Indian reference is odd.
     
  7. LOTTERY

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    btw, tirk, right now im at work and on the computer and the when the thing says somebody responded I write my response and go back to work. Also, I got a raise yesterday. Yesssssssssssss
     
  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    same here but I didnt get a raise. Prolly cuz of AA and im freaking white.
     
  9. LOTTERY

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    Nahh, it's probably b/c your boss doesn't like you.
     
  10. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    like shouldnt be part of my evaluation. thats racism if he doesnt like me cuz Im white which Im sure that is only reason for someone not to like me. keeping whitey down is the real problem today. its very clear.
     

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