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  1. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    I did and found nothing compelling. Just "8 degrees of Bill Clinton" done with dead people. Friends of friends of brothers of friends who died. You said that at least 12 good friends of the Clintons committed suicide under very dubious circumstances.

    Complete BS.
     
  2. DRC

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    The 12 suicide may not be true. I dont remember that many either, however, there are quite a few suspicious deaths surrounding the Clintons. I believe Snopes did a rebuke over the claims several years ago but left out quite a few people. Then it was proven the original owners were confirmed trolls and George Soros (remember that name?) actually owns the site which compromises their integrity regarding Clinton political issues.

    I dont believe all the names on this site are "victims" but I have read more than enough to know that some of these deaths seem strange and unexplainable.

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html

    Maybe nothing to it, maybe where there is smoke there is fire. No credible authority has been able to confirm or deny all of the Clintons body count victims. Some of the high profile ones are indeed bogus though. Regardless, the list of dead people who were close to the Clintons seems pretty long.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Only if you want to be taken seriously. :grin: You know, kooks make up stories all the time and people take them hook, line, and sinker . . .

    As you might expect, the stories have been completely debunked.

    Snopes: The Clinton Body Count
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It's what makes sense. Only the commander on the site has the information and the time to make quick decisions. Obama gave that commander the authority to make those decisions, which is exactly what the military wants in an executive, not some kind of Lyndon Johnson micro-manager.

    Killing the pirates is not the first option because the risk to the captain was extremely high and it left us with less intelligence about the masterminds of all this, whom we do need to visit soon and remind him about the "messing with a superpower" thing. If they could have negotiated the captain's release and taken all four pirates alive, it would have been ideal.

    But failing that, the commander needed the blanket authority to act as necessary and prudent . . . and he had it. It contained no "conditions" that inhibited his actions or decisions.
     
  5. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    To date this is the shining moment of the Obama presidency. He gave the SEAL team the authority to act when they deemed it necessary.

    This situation had a happy ending, but the pirates will have to be dealt with until the political situation in Somalia is resolved. I hope President Obama gives the Navy the continued authority to deal with pirates quickly.
     
  6. DRC

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    Not debunked. Some yes but still a large number have no explanation. Snopes is a dubious source for Clinton information given the George Soros connection. Besides, Snopes doesnt address all the people claimed to have had suspicious deaths around Clinton. Additionally, Snopes changed the pages when Soros took ownership of the site and changed it again when Hillary Clinton was running for the Dem nomination.

    The Mikkelson's are also admitted trolls and lost a ton of credibility for their site when they fessed up about false claims they made several years ago. Claiming Snopes as a source for authoritative findings is not as credible as it once was.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Got a better one? They addressed each claim one by one and make a damn good case that the Clinton Body Count is hogwash. A much better case than the people making this absurd claim in the face of all the evidence.
     
  8. DRC

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    There is no ONE site. So no, I dont have a better ONE. Multiple sources should be used to confirm the legitimacy of any claims regardless of topic. Not just ONE. Given snopes is a confirmed Soros mouth piece, their rep regarding Clinton history is tainted at best, twisted and manipulated at worst.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Great! Give me multiple sources that confirm the body count claims then.

    Well, they cite real sources. They point out errors that can be checked. I can understand why you would want to discredit them, but you still have no proof to offer to support any dubious claims about a Clinton serial killer. Making such a claim without some evidence convinces nobody.
     
  10. DRC

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    I never claimed anything about a Clinton serial killer. I admitted some of the claims are clearly bogus but noted that Snopes didn't cover all the deaths. There are contradictory stories surrounding some of those not addressed by Snopes that seem strange and unexplainable.

    Snopes is indeed owned by George Soros, we dont need to go into his bizarre liberal background. A man who claimed removing a President was a "matter of life and death" is a left wing nut job. Its a fact the original owners, and now editors, of Snopes are admitted trolls who floated numerous bogus stories themselves. They also admit they are the only two people who run the site and have no research support and no expertise in research. Snopes isnt a bad place but to consider the findings authoritative, especially political determinations, of two people who report directly to George Soros doesnt pass for objectivity.
     

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