American Drug War

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LaSalleAve, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Messages:
    44,037
    Likes Received:
    18,027
    i partially agree with you, but kids are going to do what kids are going to do, regardless. I will educate my child, tell her everything there is to know, so hopefully she will be able to make educated decisions. Prohibition means you give up all control to the gangsters and criminals. Legalizing in a controlled manner, means the state would control it. Now to me it seems it would be harder for a child to get a gram of meth from a "clinic" than it would be from a dealer he met at school. The sick thing about meth, is it is basically the same thing as adderal. There are legal drugs that no one talks about, that are being prescribed to our children that are just as dangerous if not more than anything that can be purchased on the street, and no one says anything.
     
  2. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2003
    Messages:
    13,667
    Likes Received:
    6,015
    Believe it or not, drugs are easier to get now then if they were legal. Drug dealers do not check ids. I don't think they should be sold at Walmart, grocery, or convenience stores. I also do not think it should be it should be run by private enterprise or the federal government. It should be run by the state. There would have to be specialized, tightly controlled stores with high security that sold them. Obviously, they would require valid id to purchase.

    If they were legal, how would you tax dollars support junkies? Like others have mentioned, it will reduce crime and prisons could be reserved for real criminals. Overcrowding could be eased by releasing/not prosecuting non violent drug offenders. (I would not put thieves into that group. Nonviolent thieves belong in prison). Like others have mentioned, it will reduce crime in obvious way and save billions and billions of your tax dollars currently being spent on the drug war. That money could be used for education, prevention, and treatment.
     
  3. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2006
    Messages:
    7,731
    Likes Received:
    1,350
    And why will it reduce crime? There will be more addicts because it's legal.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Being legal, it will be cheap. If there are no huge risky profits to be had in the black market, then the violent street gangs and the mafia are out of the drug business.

    If a heroin addict can get methadone free at the county clinic, he won't have to steal your Chevy Volt to pay the mafia.
     
  5. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2006
    Messages:
    7,731
    Likes Received:
    1,350
    I would argue that it is offset by more junkies on the streets. Also, I would argue, mafia and gangs aren't going away, they'll just move onto other illegal activities and continue to committ crimes. But the truth is I really don't know. No one does. You can't just point to another country and say, hey it worked there.

    I think there are many reasons beyond this why drugs shouldn't be made legal.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Junkies won't have to steal if they can get free methadone.
     
  7. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2006
    Messages:
    7,731
    Likes Received:
    1,350
    oh now I'm paying for their drugs.....great!
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    62 cents for a methadone shot versus $60,000 for your Mercedes? False economy.
     
  9. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2006
    Messages:
    7,731
    Likes Received:
    1,350
    I have a civic, but I appreciate you thinking that highly of me.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2003
    Messages:
    19,026
    Likes Received:
    934
    even if that was true it shouldnt take away their right to be junkies.


    yeah maybe so. but in the same sense that repeal of the aboloition of alcohol hurt organized crime, so will the legalization of drugs.

    when vices like drugs and hookers and gambling are legal, there are less markets for criminals. what will the criminal sell me if not these things?

    you should consider the rights of people who want to do drugs.

    i am very glad you respect my right to drink. but why have you not extended the right to get intoxicated to my friends who prefer other drugs?
     

Share This Page