I don't think its as complex as Red is making it out to be unless you won't discriminate against Middle East looking man. He have set our own demise in this country because we won't discriminate against the very people who did 9-11. Our airport security will check out normal Americans, grandmothers, etc, while letting others go because of discrimination. It really isn't hard to see alot of these people look the same, I'm not saying that white people aren't capable of this sort of thing but it hasn't happened so far. These guys were second generation British citizens but they still looked like they were from Pakistan or somewhere like that, one of them if not all of them have been to and from Pakistan recently. Maybe the British government needs to have the resources just like we should to watch people who come to and from Pakistan? Get a clue, this should be more than enough reason, like i said, for the British and American governments to take over and clean up Pakistan, war on terror. John Walker Lynn or something like that was a white American from the Pacific Northwest but he was in Afghanistan, its not hard to follow the trail, it all leads to Afghanistan and Pakistan region. Red, trust me, the get a clue part had nothing to do with you. Its directed at Americans and others in general. :thumb:
One more thing... I've seen various shows on the 9-11 hijackers, I am no expert and don't claim to be. They were all of Saudi decent but they all had their training in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Pakistan IS WHERE the schools of brain washing and hate for the west exist, it does NO GOOD to fight a war on terror or capture cells from around the world if we don't stop these schools of brain washing. Just maybe we will be lucky with Saudi Arabia? The best thing that we can hope for is the terrorists making Saudi Arabia's goverment unstable, maybe a long shot? Well, Saudi Arabia has been rocked by a few terrorist attacks over the last few years. If this happens the government would be forced to do something about terrorism or would rely on our help? Maybe Iraq could be keeping this from happening because they are busy in Iraq? Maybe not? Maybe it was a mistake for us going in Iraq but hindsight is 20/20. Time will tell.
Timothy McVie, the Oklahoma City Bomber; Ted Kozinski, the Unibomber, and Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Bomber come immediately to mind. We can't just go by what people look like. It is complex. But obviously we can't ignore Muslims if the main threat comes from muslim people. Americans won't favor the police roaming the streets and just pulling people over and demanding proof that they aren't islamic terrorists. But I do think that if you are entering a security area for public transportation, a chemical plant, or a federal building, you are consenting to the right to be profiled for the pubic good. Many of these arabs and persians have a European-American parent and they could look just like your cousin Murray. We have to be cleverer than that. It may be time for a national ID that a computer can read for your security level. Then white, elderly ladies with 75 years of no criminal behavior can swipe their cards, do a thumb-scan, and be fast-tracked at airports, while islamic foreign people between the ages of 15 and 60 have to go through the slow line with the X-rays, explosive-sniffers, fingerprint scan, and face recognition imaging systems. Discrimination, yes, but for vital security reasons that protect us all. This would also help to put peer pressure on these jihadists from their law-abiding muslim bretheren who must undergo this extra scrutiny because of them.
A first point--about Pakistan. One of my close friends and former colleagues is from India. In fact, she moved back to Madras a couple of years ago and runs her father's company (she's Brahman and can do pretty much whatever she wants to there--outsourcing with American companies and all), but I digress. She says Pakistan is a major threat to India and to America. Don't even get her Hindu self started on Islam, either. A second point--about Muslims in America. The city in which I live has a substantial Muslim population. When I wrote for The Dallas Morning News, one of my fellow community columnists was a Pakistani Muslim--and not a terrorist. My new next-door neighbors are Pakistani Muslims--and I hope they aren't terrorists, but they appear to be living the American dream in a pretty two story house in the suburbs. I teach Muslim children each year (around 5% of my students). Most of them are lovely children, and most of their parents are nice and supportive. However, four years ago (2001-2002 school year), one of our student's father was a raving maniac about the Muslim faith. He sent our team's social studies teacher tons of propaganda that he suggested she teach about the evil Jews (he was Palestinian). When we did a Holocaust unit in English, his daughter was not allowed to read our novel, and he sent us propaganda about why the Jews needed to be exterminated in the Holocaust, and it was a job left undone. Eventually, our team became unnerved enough by all of this (especially since 9/11 was a fresh memory at that time) that we reported this guy to the FBI. They never really got back to us, but the man was deported by the beginning of the next school year. I felt like we did our American duty, and it was really scary because the guy worked for Texas Instruments--and the thought of man like that being employed at such an important company with so much power was frightening, to say the least. He's gone, but how many countless others are out there? My daughter is friends with as Israeli girl at her preschool. During a playdate last year, I asked Nitzan's mother why they moved to the US. She said they weren't safe in Israel. I believe she said of the Palestinians, "They aren't human. They don't love their children the way Jews and Christians do."
I don't think that could happen because Saudi oilfields are readily equipped with a self-destruct system in the event of a hostile takeover. That's just another reason why we urgently need to begin working toward alternate energy sources/fuels.
I agree on this part. The only way this stuff will get rooted out and stopped is if "peaceful" muslim's stand up and fight against their distorted breatheren. That's the only way. Saudi's, who are in a very precarious position, need to stand up and not allow these actions if they don't believe in it. And if they believe in it, tell everyone so we can come unload on you.
News Flash: alternative fuels have been around and working since the 50's and some even before. Auto makers and Oil Producers <------( mainly this one. ) stand to lose MAJOR DOUGH from alternative fuels. they have lobbied agaisnt it. We could very easily have cars that ran on Methanol 20 years ago. It's made from Coal. And can be made syntheticlly without coal. All the drawbacks from running alternative fuels were similar to the drawbacks from running Gasoline, but we overcame them through R & D and technology. I run my car on Methanol. When People/ CORPS with BIG money support both sides of the isle to IGNORE alternative fuels, it happens. It gets Lip service and few government grants to funnel money into the stream for the EPA to wave a "see look what we're doing flag" It also keeps the big three in good graces with them. They keep technology current just in case, meanwhile the middle class burns money for oil and the Corporations burn your money and buy Leer jets to burn more oil..... see its not about fuel it's about MONEY.
Yes, I am fully aware of that. By 'working toward', I was specifically insinuating that we need to begin adapting to its implementation. Given the magnitude of such an adjustment, we really need to start now, or it may be too late by the time its necessity is realized. Yep. They have been keeping the large-scale implementation down for some time now. Funny thing is, it would be these same companies profiting from alternative fuel in the long run. There are simply no other entities equipped to manufacture and distribute such a product. But they would lose money initially, and I think that is enough to keep them from making the first move. A good example of this is the chicken-and-egg quagmire with hydrogen (or methanol, as you stated). The companies won't install hydrogen pumps at fueling stations because no one drives a hydrogen-fueled car. But no one drives a hydrogen-fueled care because there is no place to re-fuel it. Someone's got to make the first move, and I dounbt it will be the petro-corps. I agree with everything else you said. We get fed some B.S. every few years from the govn't about how this type of thing is 'in the works', only to be fed the same lines some time later.
does this mean you are not goin to correct some form of grammar in my post? :shock: :hihi: LOL BTW: its not "too Late" and it won't be. The U.S. could start doing this in a year.
what do you mean "too late"? i figure we will have what we need, when we need it. why wouldnt we? when we really need some alternative energy, somebody will do it. as of now we are fine and have plaenty of gasoline. i hope the government never lifts a finger to do anything about alternative energies. private capitalists will solve our problems as they happen. the government will only make everything worse, so they should not say or do anything, in fact, the department of energy should be closed immediately.
