sorry man, i was in a hurry, and you had a list of like 9(!) things to address. and like i said, i think you are taking irrelevant or minor things and casting them as failures for the president. for instance, the nomination of whats-her-name for the supreme court. i agree, she sucked. we all knew it, and then bush came up with somebody better. problem solved. so that is a minor thing that never resulted in anything bad. and i did go in depth about your point that the approval polls are way down. this is not a failure at all. just like your ideas are not popular here, that doesnt make them wrong. approval and opinion is not a factor when considering whether bush is wright or wrong with his policy. like i have said before, there are only two issues i actually grade presidents on. foreign policy and tax/economic policy. most other things that drive people crazy, like privacy issues or gay rights or supreme court justices, that stuff doesnt matter to me so much. and you and i have done my two issues to death and i think we both did a good job with our perspectives. if you want to take a deeper look into some other "failure" on bush's part, i suppose we could start a new thread and go after it. but in this thread you had a long ass list for me to deal with. and i will try to do better next time.
You gotta keep an eye on Red's debating tactics. He is a smart guy & makes good points, but he'll say things knowing that they can be refuted - he just leaves it to you to do the research. I find that somewhat ironic, being that he's always preaching moderation.
But of course! You are perceptive, Grasshoppa. In this fashion, I have trained martin to be a better debater and I'm working on LSUcraig and Benito99. They are more interesting when they do the research and get the facts right instead of just making schoolyard taunts. You have to leave an opponent some opportunities. I'd rather be challenged than to be bored.
doesn't matter. Hillary will never get elected. My mother, who's always on the pulse of the majority, calls her "that B---H!" She likes McCain... Politics is about perception and identification: Kerry was blue-blooded, pompous, and ugly. Gore was a rich brat (that was a close one for mom, but she voted for Bush) She's voted for the winning presendential candidate as far as i can remember...she voted for Landrieu, the other one was "ugly", she voted for Vitter, blah, blah, blah... What swings the masses is not what is talked about here. It's who people would prefer to have dinner with, plain and simple.
dont listen to red, he knows i am the guy who made people check theyselves posting non-true rumors and crazy "facts" they heard. also he knows i am the guy who is most vigilant trying to help our more emotional friends to lay off the childish personal jabs. red did teach me how to call people amigo in a way they think is condescending but really isnt. so i appreciate that, amigos. and i dont do research, i never need to, i know what i am talking about, i researched it years ago, when i first concocted my crazy opinions.
For your information, the Liberals for Democratic Action have given Hillary a 95% rating. That is hardly centrist. Like her husband, she is trying to portray herself as a centrist, but her voting record indicates something quite different.
That's a good one there. A feeble attempt to cover your ass, I suppose, after not being able to justify the use of anti-American propaganda in place of a few simple facts and figures to make the point the president has profited from oil in the past. Since you like challenges, here's one - don't let your moderate views be warped by your associates on campus. We all know our beloved universities are breeding grounds for socialism. It looks like they might have already gotten the best of you. (Now comes the story about how he argues the conservative side of issues when he is among that crowd, but takes the liberal agenda to balance out this forum, all for the sake of a good debate.:yelwink2: )
oh man is that true. LSU is amazing. so different than the northeast. if i go out to the bar down my street, and people find out i like bush, they are stunned. they cant believe a seemingly ordinary and good natured fellow like me likes bush. they think i am some sort of southern red state racist bible belt christian maniac. many people are so far gone with their partisanship that they cant really put it aside and act normal. if i cared about making friends with lots of locals i would probably keep my opinions secret. lucky for me i already have more friends than i want.
That's probably true, but saying LSU is more conservative than 90% of the others doesn't exactly equate to meeting the true definition of conservative or moderate these days. Like when Red says Hillary, Edwards and Gore are more moderate than party leadership, that may be so, but they definitely aren't "moderate". My previous post was not targeted at the LSU faculty as a whole, but directed toward Red's associates, based on his previous comments about them.
