Al Quada and our news media, Democrats have something in common

No we don't. If you can't cite any examples of the crimes you speak of, I assume you are just making them up. I will never understand somebody making accusations that they can't back up.

I did the research, amigo. The right-wing editorials you cite did not tell the whole truth.

"The application for stay presented to Justice Kennedy and by him referred to the Court is denied. The petition for a writ of certiorari is denied."

With that brief decision, the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for Juan Miguel Gonzalez to return home with his son, Elian Gonzalez. They did so on Wednesday, June 28, 2000. Elian Gonzalez is the 6-year-old Cuban boy rescued at sea in November 1999, and brought to the United States.

This page lists the documents on the Immigration Website, and on other Websites, concerning the Government’s decisions and actions in this case.
US Citizenship and Immigration Services

I see. You refuse to offer any evidence of your comments that Clinton was above the law, but you demand that I prove you wrong about little Elian. OK, listed above is the entire record of government decisions and actions on the Elian Gonzales case. You can read them all if you wish, there is a lot of political maneuvering and posturing, but the bottom line is that the Supreme Court, The 11th Circuit Court and a Florida District court decided the matter according to the law of the land. Here are just a few statements by the Attorney General on the rulings.

WASHINGTON, DC -- The United States Supreme Court today declined to accept for review the case of Elian Gonzalez. The Court's action means that the injunction put in place by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals will expire at 4:00 PM eastern time today, and Elian Gonzalez will be permitted to depart the U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno issued the following statement:

"I am very pleased that the Supreme Court has declined to review the case of Elian Gonzalez. The law has provided a process, and this little boy now knows that he can remain with his father. All involved have had an opportunity to make their case--all the way to the highest court in the land. I hope that everyone will accept the Supreme Court's decision and join me in wishing this family, and this special little boy, well."


STATEMENT BY ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO ON THE 11 TH CIRCUIT
COURT'S DECISION IN THE ELIAN GONZALEZ CASE

"We are pleased that the Court has upheld our decision that only Juan Miguel Gonzalez can speak for his son Elian on federal immigration matters. These three federal appellate judges have now joined with a federal district court judge and a Florida state court judge in recognizing the authority of the INS to make this determination.


WASHINGTON, DC -- The 11 th Circuit Court of Appeals today denied the motion by the Miami relatives of Elian Gonzalez for a rehearing or a rehearing en banc in the case of Elian Gonzalez. Attorney General Janet Reno issued the following statement.

"We are pleased that the 11 th Circuit Court of Appeals has acted unanimously in denying the motion for rehearing in the case of Elian Gonzalez. Now that the Court has conclusively upheld our decision, I am hopeful that this father and son will soon be able to move on with their lives together."

So I am a fool, eh Sourdough? OK, the gloves are off I guess. Don't expect me to pull any punches in the future. I won't be calling you names, but I will expose your pretzel logic and unsubstantiated allegations without hesitation or restraint.

 

Yeah, Jackboot Janet was pretty rough on right-wing militant kooks armed with military weapons that refused to surrender to the law. That's what an Attorney General is supposed to be--tough on crime. This became even more important after McVeigh's bombing in Oklahoma City. The fire that spread at Waco was another foul-up by the incredibly fouled up ATF. No one intended to kill the cult children.

Now, drawing down on little Elian may have been kind of much, but the Cuban Exiles had promised to defend Elian with their lives. So Jackboot Janet sent in a SWAT team and that ended that crap. She surely was no pussy. That was Al Gore's job.

Even if we state, for the sake or argument, that Janet Reno failed to exercise adequate control over both operations, she still didn't break the law . . . she represented the law and was never charged nor convicted of any crime.

Sourdough, What I originally objected to was your statement: "the Clinton Justice department would go after innocent Americans using all the alphabet agencies."

I say these examples don't qualify. Elian Gonzales was not an innocent American. He was a illegal Cuban immigrant. The Cuban exiles that were holding him were not innocent Americans either. They defied an order to deport Elian, legally issued by the INS.

David Koresh was not an innocent American. His gun cult defied the law and refused to surrender to the authorities. He admitted his guilt on videotape. Nobody went there to kill the innocent children, they were there to arrest Koresh and his illegally armed adult militia.

I just don't believe the Clinton "alphabet agencies" went after innocent American citizens. The radicals at Waco and Ruby Ridge were not innocents. That's who Reno went after.