Al Gore nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

my example in this thread is an employee of NOAA. he was writing the opinion for the ipcc on hurricanes, and he was ignored by the lead author, who presented conclusions without evidence, ignoring the specific expert they hired for the topic. when questioned where he got his evidence, the lead author just ignored everything and continued on. the dissenter quit. it is easy to portray consensus when you ignore dissenters. i could put together a panel that would present a consensus that bigfoot exists if i wanted.

you can read his story here:

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/p...olicy_general/000318chris_landsea_leaves.html

the is the exact opposite of the truth. few topics elicit so much controversy among scientists. you dont see UN commissions arguing over gravity or evolution. because those topics do not spawn activists who intend to manipulate economies with environmental socialism. most topics to do not require ridiculous UN committees, with all the best scientists from syria and morocco.

i realize that people often think all things require government manipulation to fix, but it isnt always the case. private investment will solve your problems, if they exist. this requires no action on your part.

1. most experiments require a control, where the same factors are in play except the one being studied. since their is only one earth, and you cannot replicate it and take away humans, it is impossible to draw a cause-effect relationship between humans and warming. we do know that the earth tends to warm and cool violently, even without humans, and their are thousands of factors involved in global climate.

2. even if we are causing warming, it isnt true that it is necessarily bad. plants love co2. areas that were previously too cold could become fertile and habitable. growing seasons will be longer in some places, and shorter in others. change isnt always negative. the world is always changing, and we can adapt. (and if we do not, so what? maybe some other species will prefer the new hotter earth, bully for them)

3. the temperature change is expected to become more significant over the next 100 years. it seems very likely that in 100 years we will have naturally progressed past fossil fuels, the primary alleged cause of the warming. the world 100 years from now will be different to the extent that any predictions about what we will have or need or be concerned about are ludicrous.

4. i have mentioned that you also like to claim the sky is falling with regard to peak oil. i think should choose one or the other, because if we are running out of oil to burn, we cannot simultaneously be in catastrophic trouble because of its continued burning. pick a disaster to use as your pet cause to enact global socialism, and stick with it.

no figures exist, but their is evidence that she has been given millions, and left the places she works in the same squalor they were in we she arrived.

i think you need to understand her motivation. read her words, you will find she thinks suffering is a gift from god, so one can feel closer to the struggles and pain of jesus. she does not intend to cure. her aim is to save souls, not their fleshy temporary homes, physical bodies. this should not be surprising , as the practical aim of religion is to prepare people for death/afterlife.

would you agree that pennington has done infinitely more for the world than mother teresa? he has funded real research, he is actually helping the health of the world. he is eradicating disease, not loaning you a bed to die in. dunno about you, but i prefer treatment to death management.

at the very least you should concede that mother teresa's rabid abortion/contraception is stance is terrible for the areas she works in. plus her funding of missionaries that preach against modern birth control techniques in the third world are contributing to to misery on a grand scale. the catholic stance on birth control, as personified by the pope and mother teresa, is a massive contributing factor to global population and disease problems in the third world, possibly doing more damage to humans worldwide than any war or dictator ever could

the sorts of places where MT worked, it is horribly damaging to preach about natural "family planning", when simple condom use could save millions from aids.

remember, to a christian, death is not the end, and there is no real motivation for the truly devoted to fear it. they embrace it. this may not fly with your mainstream american christian, who is reasonable enough to hate death and disease, but not to a fundamentalit wacko like mother teresa. for her, death is fabulous and to be embraced. so mother teresa lived like a woman who embraced death and suffering. not a hero in my book.

 

I was just responding to someones post saying it works both ways not a one way street.
I guess you have a problem with that?

Its human nature, job security.
Guarantee it happens just like school teachers who don't agree with their
teachers union keep their mouths shut because it effects their security.

Another example is that their are people in high places that are trying to
intimidate the opposition such as Jay Rockefeller, Olympia Snowe and Heidi Cullen from the weather channel.
Thats good enough for me.
What is your side trying to hide?

I guess you got me here...
The world is worse that i thought.
I had no clue that researchers and scientists have tenure just like teachers!:shock:

We would probably disagree here, I think tenure is a mistake.
Todays society its all about me and I'm owed more that it is
about busting your ass and making something out of yourself.

 

Interesting. I did not realize that. Good catch.

 

Are you kidding me? Well I guess the continued use of the PA supporting suicide bombers blowing themselves up in civilian area is one of the stipulations that the US makes them follow. Or Abbas telling the various palestinian factions not to shoot at each other but turn their guns towards the Israelis which is a direct violation of Phase I of the "Road Map". While Israel has removed many of it's settlements (all 21 in Gaza and 4 in the west bank) and frozen future settlements.

Better yet, like when Clintonhad the Camp David Summit in 2000 that would've given the Palestinians their own state but Arafat turned it down.

Yea i'm so glad the Palestinians have followed the "Road Map" while the Israeli's have done nothing about the poor, sad, plight of those Palestinians.

 

Lets also not forget who Arafat really was!
Not only a leader of the Palestinians but he also was responsible for terrorism.
Lets revisit the 1972 Munich games and the horror that took place there.
Afterwards he spoke at the UN with a pistol on his side.
So now we have another reason why the UN and the Nobel Peace Prize has
lost some credibility.
Mr. Nobel would turn over in his grave on this one!

 

WTF? Gore is an idiot. I cant believe he is saying that its ok for a country that is quickly becoming the largest polluter in the world to skate when he is holding everyone else to a different standard. :dis:

I hope this goes a long way in derailing his nomination for the NPP.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070208/ap_on_sc/gore_climate_change_1

Here is something I got in an email the other day. I didnt look for where it came from but its interesting and seemingly unbias and not laced with politics.

 

this is why the UN cannot be trusted, they are way too political, most countries in the UN stand to gain from legislation on global warming, because of the reasons gore is giving.

since most countries are wretched, and only a few first world superpowers would really be regulated, the average UN general assembly country loves global warming hysteria.