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Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUMASTERMIND, Sep 3, 2008.

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SabanFan The voice of reason

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For Obama, the outsider who gained the trust of the insiders, the position is different. He was willing to use Ayers and ally with him despite his terrorist past and lack of repentance. An unrepentant terrorist, who bragged of bombing the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon, was a fit associate. Ayers evidently helped Obama gain insider status in Chicago civic life and politics--how much, we can't be sure. But most American politicians would not have chosen to associate with a man with Ayers's past or of Ayers's beliefs. It's something voters might reasonably want to take into account.
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Can Obama really be trusted with the keys to the Oval Office?

SabanFan, Sep 4, 2008

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What a crazy thread.
Another example of what I was talking about.
I was not in a good mood this morning over this leftist stuff.
Politics of personal destruction but I did notice this was an article with no link attached?

I guess some crazy left wing website?

I will say I was a disturbed American right after Waco.
What the government did was wrong.
It was perfectly normal for people to be questioning what the heck was going on in our country?:dis:

I will say that I stopped listening to Art Bell in the mid 90's once the black helicopters were suppose to be flying over our heads and then the UFO's were suppose to take over the country.:lol:

Sourdoughman, Sep 4, 2008

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TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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LSUMASTERMIND said: ↑

If it has to do with his judgement or policy then yes its valid.
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I agree in regards to all the candidates.

I think you just want to fight with me. Im no fool its easy to see that you are favoring McCain/Palin ticket. Your tap dancing rhetoric isnt confusing me. Also I will find your post on the subjects you referenced.
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How do you figure that? Anyone that disagrees with you wants to fight you? Tap dancing rhetoric? I state clearly what I mean. You assume I support a certain candidate. I said you were incorrect and challenged you to find a post saying I am supporting McCain. You can't, so you ignore your incorrect assumption about who I am voting for.

Or do you just wish to cast me as another angry person, is that a fall back tactic of yours?
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I don't need fall back tactics. You support your candidate fully and have found great fault with people here that do not share your views. You can characterize yourself as a person that is not angry about this election or you defending your candidate. I choose not to believe that.

I have been very consistent in debunking slander and smears, yes you are right about that. Perceived negative policies of Obama, I have given fair debates on that and intently listen to the other side of them as well. Once again another misstated assumption of yours.
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I have seen you fairly debate on occasion, and on other occasions, not so much. However, I have yet to see you admit to a single fault or shortcoming of Obama. Apparently, Obama in perfect.

TheDude, Sep 4, 2008

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TheDude said: ↑

I agree in regards to all the candidates.

How do you figure that? Anyone that disagrees with you wants to fight you? Tap dancing rhetoric? I state clearly what I mean. You assume I support a certain candidate. I said you were incorrect and challenged you to find a post saying I am supporting McCain. You can't, so you ignore your incorrect assumption about who I am voting for.
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I found a couple of post yesterday, where you showed your support for McCain and your disdain for Obama, I choose not to rehash them because its senseless. My assumption isnt incorrect, you just will find a way to justify your post and position, while trying to stay on the fence at the same time. Another senseless argument.

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don't need fall back tactics. You support your candidate fully and have found great fault with people here that do not share your views. You can characterize yourself as a person that is not angry about this election or you defending your candidate. I choose not to believe that.
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You can believe what you want to believe, its a great country right. You still dont know my mindset or my emotional state on this election. Its as simple as that, no matter how you slice it, still misguided assumption of yours.

I have seen you fairly debate on occasion, and on other occasions, not so much. However, I have yet to see you admit to a single fault or shortcoming of Obama. Apparently, Obama in perfect.
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Once again your opinion and failure to point out facts. I said yesterday that Obama had some questionable associations. Also, I dont agree with him on 2 things, one of them being the FISA bill he voted for. More assumptions

BTW, I dont think McCain is a bad guy at all, I think he is honorable in every since of the word. I just disagree with his new policies, he is a different guy from what I knew of him 4 to 8 years ago. That disturbs me, that he has flipped alot of his positions to win this nomination. I mean 4 years ago, he considered running with John Kerry or he at least had a serious conversation about it.
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LSUMASTERMIND, Sep 5, 2008

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And while questioning her public record or personal beliefs seem relevant, do you think the liberal media really cares about that? I would say that going after her daughter, her daughter's boyfriend, her newborn son, questioning her ability to lead because she is a mom, or her ability to mother because she is leading, has absolutely nothing to with anything except a desire to destroy her.
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Oh, sure. Look, when you run for national office, your whole life is subject to scrutiny and that's a good thing. She knew it when she ran. The "liberal" media lambasted Obama for something his former pastor said, for Heaven's sake. They lambasted his wife for something she said.

You're crying crocodile tears for poor, poor Sarah Palin.

red55, Sep 6, 2008

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SabanFan said:

For Obama, the outsider who gained the trust of the insiders, the position is different. He was willing to use Ayers and ally with him despite his terrorist past and lack of repentance. An unrepentant terrorist, who bragged of bombing the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon, was a fit associate.
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Ayers has never been convicted of a crime and has been a respected university professor and public trust director for decades. That two influential Chicago politicians and board members know each other is not unusual. How many Louisiana politicians and influential people are "associated" with the felon Edwin Edwards? Most of them.

McCain was one of the "Keating Five" as far as public scandals go. Obama has never been accused of corruption in office.

red55, Sep 6, 2008

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Oh, sure. Look, when you run for national office, your whole life is subject to scrutiny and that's a good thing. She knew it when she ran. The "liberal" media lambasted Obama for something his former pastor said, for Heaven's sake. They lambasted his wife for something she said.

You're crying crocodile tears for poor, poor Sarah Palin.
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Apples and oranges. His pastor is a chosen association, one that he apparently regretted after scrutiny. His wife actively campaigned for him so her statements are fair game. If that standard is applied to Palin then her children are off limits. Suggesting she had an extra-marital affair, that her youngest son is not her's, and then lambasting her daughter for being pregnant, is not the same thing any way you slice it. It has been clearly discouraged by the Obama campaign and the media has taken it on the chin as a result of it. Attack her record, friends, whatever, but they chose to take a different tack out of fear.

Children are off limits but the press today has no limits. Until thousands of people start canceling subscriptions and changing the channel.

TheDude, Sep 6, 2008

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Children are off limits but the press today has no limits. Until thousands of people start canceling subscriptions and changing the channel.
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On this we can agree. Rush Limbaugh spent two terms ridiculing 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton for being "ugly". It only made him ugly.

red55, Sep 6, 2008

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On this we can agree. Rush Limbaugh spent two terms ridiculing 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton for being "ugly". It only made him ugly.
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At least Chelsea prettied up. Amy Carter is still ugly.

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At least Chelsea prettied up. Amy Carter is still ugly.
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hoo wee.........bless her heart......

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