ACLU wants Jesus out of Slidell Court

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  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    If you believe the Constitution isn't mis-interpreted these days you are living on an island Buddy.
    Just to ask you a few questions from your own article here.
    What would happen today if Congress passed a resolution calling for a national day of prayer and thanksgiving?
    Would you be for it or against it?
    Are you for or against reciting the pledge?

    Your little article has already been violated because some public places such as airports and schools have been accomodated for Muslims.
    I guess we are all scared of them but we know most christians won't do anything to harm us.
    I wonder how the left and ACLU would feel about Christians wanting what Muslims do these days?

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36118

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/ps_praf.htm
    2001-NOV: NY: New York City public schools: Chancellor Harold Levy stated that the city would facilitate prayers for Muslim students during the lunar month of Ramadan -- an Islamic holy time of fasting and spiritual activities. Students would be allowed to leave classes briefly to pray. Prayer rooms would be established where they could worship. Response was varied: Some have objected to the linkage of religion and public schooling; they regard Levy's decision to be a violation of the principle of separation of church and state.
    Others object to special privileges for one faith, and the exclusion of all others. William Donohue, president of the Catholic League "commended Chancellor Levy for his decision to endorse the rights of Muslim students. However, he told Levy that 'in the spirit of inclusiveness,' it was only fitting that public schools extend that same respect for religious tradition to every child."
    Others point out that Islam is the only popular faith in the city which needs to be accommodated in this way. Islamic prayers are expected to be said at specific times during the day. Christians and others can organize Bible Clubs and similar groups which can hold prayer sessions outside of classroom hours.


    After a flood of complaints, Chancellor Levy decided to abandon his plan. His office issued a news release saying, in part: "Students of all...faiths can always pray but it cannot disrupt class and it cannot be offered in the form of a special prayer room." 7,8

    http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2006/05/muslim_prayer_in_us_public_sch.html
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55417
    http://hangrightpolitics.com/2006/12/02/muslims-want-a-separate-prayer-room-at-airports/
    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2006/12/01/airportprayer/
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53543
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    This is simply your opinion. There is over 200 years of precedent and court rulings that have established that religion has no place in government and government has no place in religion.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You mean like this?

    National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving, 2001
     
  4. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    Religion is a personal and private issue. There is no need to have religious symbols of any kind in government buildings or a national day of prayer or anything along those lines. The role of government should be to play no role in religion. They simply need to allow all of us the freedom to worship, or not worship, in our own way.

    We're making this more complicated than it needs to be. People of faith don't need public religious symbols to reinforce their faith. Your personal relationship with your God is what counts, not symbols and public prayer.
     
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  5. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    Exactly. The Supreme Court's main purpose is to settle unclear issues of Constitutional Law, like issues of religion and government. Time and time again it has ruled in favor of separation. I don't see why Christians have a problem with this. They are not being persecuted. They are free to attend any church they please, anytime they want. These churches even get tax exemptions that in my opinion they shouldn't be getting.

    For an institution that has done so much to poison the world, it already gets enough undeserved deference and respect. Secular governments don't need to buy into it as well. They are supposed to be agents of all their constituents, not just the delusional ones.
     
  6. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Oh you mean like the muslim prayer classes in public schools and prayer rooms at public airports!:yelwink2:


    It you are talking about institutions of faith here then I would say it depends on ones perspective meaning that there are plenty of things that poison the world that are secular.
     
  7. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    Did you read my post? I stated clearly that the Constitution is being mis-interpreted.
     
  8. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    Yes, but we don't tend to honor the secular ones by posting pictures of them on courthouses and government buildings.
     
  9. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    So if we should allow for religion in Govt buildings, which one do we allow? Be specific. Baptist? Catholic?
     
  10. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    There is nothing wrong with a general statement of religiousity or religious principles such as the Ten Commandments. The Supreme Court has it posted.
     

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