ACA effects becoming reality

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Small wins are progress. ACA could stand improving. All systems need to be constantly improved as actually use reveals problems or opportunities to create savings. But starting over is not an improvement, its a waste of 8 years.

    Lobbyists lobby everywhere for sure. But tell me you don't understand that the Republicans have traditionally protected big business from government regulation as a matter of party policy.
     
  2. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    uscvball Founding Member

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    More examples of why ACA was doomed to begin.....lack of historical data and lots of faulty assumptions by the writers and planners about consumer behavior.

    "The number one reason employees do not want the current group insurance is because they currently have coverage elsewhere, often because they are eligible for their parents' plan or prefer a spouse’s or partner’s plan.

    “Some individuals are able to get a better deal through the employer sponsored medical plan of their spouse or domestic partner or they don’t mind paying a little more to be on the same policy as their spouse or domestic partner,” said Pace.

    Some employees are steering clear of their company’s plan if they want to continue to see their current doctors or receive treatment at a hospital that are excluded from the current network.

    “Generally, the contribution the employer makes toward monthly premiums for the group plan reduces the cost of the insurance for each worker," Lopez said. "In order to receive comparable coverage, consumers may need to pay more out of their own pockets towards premiums for their plan.”

    While some employees skip the company insurance and buy their own on the marketplace, others are avoiding coverage altogether because they are healthy and deem the coverage unnecessary or can not afford it.

    Some consumers are finding better deals through the private market, but for people who are employed, there are “several headwinds against this option making financial sense,” said Pace. Not only does the individual lose his employer contribution, but he is also paying for the premiums with post-tax dollars. Other people who are eligible for affordable coverage from their employer are unlikely to qualify for a subsidy through the ACA marketplace."
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/insu...ompany-health-insurance/ar-BBmu5fN?li=BBgzzfc
     
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  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    You need to go back and re-read some of these threads because I've been clear that the Dems are just as cozy with big business and special interests as the Repubs. Only a fool would say different.
     
  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Nyuck nyuck nyuck
     
  6. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    NC the one note you continually trumpet is that the Rs are responsible for every problem on earth. You never miss a chance to blame the Rs as unfeeling unbending ideologues.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    And you do the same for Democrats. So what?
     
  8. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    It was about his actions sport. Why don't you let him try to defend himself? I think he may be capable.
     
  9. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    It didn't improve for me. Tens of thousands of other self employed people are in the same boat. My insurance cost more and provides less today than it did last year.
     
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  10. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Not only that, but to offset the costs, I can't go get a super high deductible plan. Theyre illegal. ACA is a tax, plain and simple.
     

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