A View of Global Warming

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  1. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan O the Joy

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    +1, +2, nil, smh... study up, it's fascinating stuff Maynard
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    fair enough
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  2. Kikicaca

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    I love how cacahead throws out data from the far past as if it holds for today’s environment. There is no doubt there are many different influences on global climate and they have made radical changes over time. That asteroid hitting 60,000,000 years ago did wonders. Likewise as noted previously as Greenland’s glaciers retreat old Viking settlements are exposed.
    However each change had different drivers. The question today is twofold. First is it actually getting warmer and if so how much and how fast? The second is what’s driving the change if it’s happening?
    I think there’s enough evidence to say we’re gett warmer. However recent data suggests it’s at a much slower rate than earlier estimates and will likely peak at a lower total rise.
    So what’s driving the change? There’s no doubt we’re putting tremendous volumes of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere and the volume of CO2 has risen since industrization. However as I said were not seeing the increases calculated. Why? Well the calculation could be wrong or other climatic impacts may be in place. I’ve read that the sun is entering a period where it is dimmer than before. This is a phenomenon that is known and has been the cause of ice ages. Regardless the panicked proclamations of recent years are nothing more than chicken little saying the sky is falling.
    There are other potential issues to consider that putting so much CO2 into the atmosphere can cause. One is the acidification of the oceans. They have a delicate pH balance and upsetting that balance could be catastrophic. We depend on the oceans for food and oxygen.
    We must learn more about what is happening. As I’ve said before I believe there is evidence we’re putting enough CO2 in the atmosphere to change the heating balance. However I’ve also said I don’t believe the drastic measures advocated are wise. I believe that human ingenuity and the free market will solve any problem. We can’t ignore data, in fact we need more we must look at the facts with open yet skeptical eyes. We CANNOT allow the socialist cabal to destroy the economy on a whim.
     
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    Nicely stated. However look back a bit and you will see there was a global cooling scare and predictions of the next ice age during the early 1900's coinciding with the Titanic sinking because of icebergs. There was a global warming scare in the 1930's coinciding with the depression and the dust bowl predicting global warming. There was another global cooling scare in the late 1960's predictions of the next ice age. Of course none of those predictions came true. Remember the Population Bomb? Yes we had 10 years to fix it or the apocalypse was coming. Remember in the 80's Ted Danzen speaking on TV for those same asshole scientist that were wrong about global cooling and warming and the Population Bomb saying we have 10 years before the worlds oceans will be void of life. Then here we are again this time it's global warming once again.

    Point they have never been right in the past and now.
     
  5. Bengal B

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    Just ask yourself a question; Why do these global warmers want to tax us to fix the alleged problem? What will they do buy off the climate? Do you actually believe by giving money that this will fix the climate? Who decides how the money us spent and who is accountable? Do you expect the elites to live sustanable lives? What rights would they expect us to give up to achive the phony fix? Finally last question;

    Why did they change from Global Warming to Climate Change?

    Wake up you are getting scammed and fleeced.
     
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    Damm can't get anything past you!
     
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  8. Kikicaca

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    Try these questions Winston let cacahead know the answers. He's waiting
     
  9. Winston1

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    Fair point but again we’re accumulating data and knowledge. Even compared to 10 years ago the data points accumulated knowledge we have today far outstrip what they had then. That’s why the predictions are moderating.
    Yes there is a significant element of socialist propaganda especially in the proposed solutions. That doesn’t mean the data is wrong and nothing is happening. Read my lips we need MORE DATA and KNOWLEDGE Bedwell jump off a cliff. Don’t turn a blind eye just because you don’t like the data. Propose a free market approach as I do.
     
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    Damn
     
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