A Preview of Bush's Address to the Nation on Illegal Immigration

Context would be the key word here. I would like to see the sentences before and after his quote.

Martin pretty much stole my thunder on this one red. Thanks martin.

Who is to say your ideas are best for the country. There are many times that I have to believe that Pres. Bush must know something that I don't. You people seem to think that you know it all. In fact, that is one of your biggest flaws, thinking you know more than you do. There is no doubt that you are an intelligent person red, but neither you, nor I are briefed by the presidents advisors.

As far as being a leader is concerned, I believe that I do know a thing or two about the subject. I'll say this, I never led by my subordinates wishes. There was a reason I was entrusted to lead my men and I expected them to follow my orders, even if they didn't always understand my reasoning. Being a leader isn't a popularity contest, being a politician is. Which makes some of Bush's decisions even more confusing. He doesn't seem to care what the polls and talking heads say. He is doing what he feels is right, damn public opinion polls. He is honorable, and decent. That is why I trust him.

 

I think you underestimate the importance of public opinion in this country. Politicians can't get elected without doing what the vast majority of the public wants to be done. A party can't stay in power by not listening to public opinion.

I agree that the people don't have all the facts that polticians have to make decisions and we have to trust them to a certain degree. But make no mistake about it, Bush, and any politician, will give in when there is overwhelming opposition.

Vietnam ended because of public opinion. This Iraq war will probably end earlier than they want if public opinion doesn't change soon. Bush's social security proposal went nowhere b/c public opinion opposed his idea. Bush finally came out firing on the immigration issue this week b/c that's what the public demanded after all the recent protests.

I know you don't want politicians to govern this way, but they do. That's our system of government.

 

bad intelligence is not a bush lie.

again, if the intelligence was wrong, then bush was telling the truth. you are the one lying. if the brits say something, and bush reports what they say, and they were wrong, bush is not the one who made a mistake, and he damn sure wasnt lying.

again, who was telling bush they needed more troops during the war and was being ignored? (not a person who was retired t the time of the war, an active general)

 

of course, i understand, democracy is not a perfect system. politicians must represent us. i am saying that people are fickle and i prefer a leader who doesnt change his opinion quickly back and forth on something if americans do.

for instance i know lots of politicians will change their opinions to make them more electable. this makes them a better politician but a worse leader, because they dont really stand for anything except themselves. and of course i recognize that the system rewards politicians who will say whatever to get elected.

i just happen to believe that bush is a really rare sort of politician who actually believes what he says. not that i agree with everything he says (how could i, he is christian), but at least i take him at his word.

most politicians are psychos, they want to be loved so badly, they want attention and power. i feel like bush just enjoys being president, and if he had lost the election, he would have been ok and said something like "dang, i lost, yall wanna go to my ranch and go fishin!". because bush doesnt have a megalomaniacal personality like clinton or most other power obsessed freaks.

 

when? i get the impression you are paraphrasing somebody other than yourself again. especially with your list of "lies".

it wasnt a mistake to take action against iraq. even if the wmd stuff is wrong, which i am not convinced it is, ther were many other reasons to go to war. likei said earlier, bush detractors only mention wmd.

you can read all the other reasons in his speech to the UN:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912-1.html

i dont think wmd is even mentioned until he mentioned 4 other things that saddam was doing to violate the terms of the 1991 agreement.

 

Some good news on the border issue. Now they need several thousand new beds (or tents, floors etc.) to house them until they can ship them back across the border.

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Looks like Iowa residents are being robbed so the government can fund Spanish/English classes for employers and their employees.


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